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51. Rob Sand might well be your next governor

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Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:31 PM

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Americans mostly back dumping the electoral college, i don't [View all] 31j20b3 Wednesday OP

Electoral College gave us Trump in 2016. hlthe2b Wednesday #1

Totally disagree. House of Roberts Wednesday #2

I'm ok with you disagreeing. Really 31j20b3 Wednesday #13

The House provides the local representation that you wnylib Wednesday #48

In part, yes. But imagine 20 years of presidents with no appreciation 31j20b3 Wednesday #49

I disagree that the president will soon have the power to wnylib Wednesday #57

I think you may be in a dangerous delusion,THIS IS WHAT TRUMP IS DOING NOW 31j20b3 Wednesday #63

I have no delusions or illusions about the state we are in. wnylib Wednesday #67

Yep. bamagal62 Wednesday #52

Dirt doesn't vote Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #3

Better said than my more verbose attempt Bettie Wednesday #7

Rob Sand might well be your next governor DFW Wednesday #51

I sure hope so Bettie Yesterday #73

I share your assessment of him. DFW Yesterday #74

This message was self-deleted by its author DinahMoeHum Yesterday #77

Josh Turek may be your next US Senator DinahMoeHum Yesterday #78

True. But people who choose how to run a Representative Democracy must consider 31j20b3 Wednesday #17

I don't see how any of this addresses the problems with the "tyranny of the minority" Stargleamer Wednesday #50

Well the E. C. is hardly tyranny is it???? That seems like rather extreme hyperbole. 31j20b3 Wednesday #54

It can be if it brings about a tyranny. . . Stargleamer Wednesday #61

Your argument really obscures the power that your visions of equal representation in the Senate and guarantee of 1 31j20b3 Wednesday #66

Yes, TYRANNY is EXACTLY what it is. Hillary Clinton WON the niyad Yesterday #83

Dirt shouldn't vote Freddie Wednesday #27

Exactly OnionPatch Yesterday #81

Suspect you are new to the impact of elections on cachukis Wednesday #4

You're suspicion is actually quite flawed as most sweeping assumptions are 31j20b3 Wednesday #18

Just relying on your attitude about the electoral college cachukis Wednesday #19

Yes as in a sweeping over generalization 31j20b3 Wednesday #22

Regardless. The electoral college was set up, ultimately, cachukis Wednesday #31

Actually one vote means one vote. All votes equal. All politicians campaigning must reach all voters. Nanjeanne Wednesday #5

If slavery was the only idea behind the electoral college... but today it ISN'T 31j20b3 Wednesday #25

I outlined the 3 reasons. None are valid now IMHO. Rural voters would still need to be wooed. No Nanjeanne Wednesday #33

Nting sweeping assumptions here: "Rural life s built around harvesting and extracting resources," c-rational Wednesday #40

"Rural life is built around harvesting and extracting resources" . . . seriously? markpkessinger Yesterday #92

Despite the majority of Americans who would like to change the electoral college, it will likely walkingman Wednesday #6

One citizen, one vote. Johonny Wednesday #8

Maybe. maybe not. 31j20b3 Wednesday #20

Is this a sweeping assumption? CivicGrief Wednesday #23

Mighty big assumption on your part. Phoenix61 Wednesday #24

I also totally disagree. Eliminating the electoral college means EVERY VOTE COUNTS. Now, only votes in a few swing Fil1957 Wednesday #9

"If the college were eliminated, candidates would visit many more states to get every vote they can." MichMan Wednesday #21

It's really not about candidates visiting, it's about what enters the national conversation 31j20b3 Wednesday #26

Yes they would, absolutely. It's true they wouldn't visit Montana or the Dakotas, but there are many states that are Fil1957 Wednesday #64

The republican college lame54 Wednesday #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Wednesday #11

Since the change would require a MineralMan Wednesday #12

True, but practical imposition isn't my consideration 31j20b3 Wednesday #29

Then your subject is irrelevant. MineralMan Wednesday #32

It's a shame you think the national economy made up of all its parts is irrelevant 31j20b3 Wednesday #36

But i don't think that. MineralMan Wednesday #38

I support The 'National Popular Vote Interstate Compact' LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #89

The state of Virginia is the latest state to join the National Popular Vote Compact LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #90

Would force candidates to campaign all over the country instead of concentrating on swing state YorkRd Wednesday #14

UNfortunately that deflects things into the party competitions and thats a mistake 31j20b3 Wednesday #34

I don't think rural America has anything to worry about. BannonsLiver Wednesday #15

Also, rural areas tend to be dominated by a few wealthy white people. yardwork Wednesday #45

Each state has two Senators.... SergeStorms Wednesday #16

And each state must have at least one Congress person. 31j20b3 Wednesday #37

There's a compromise position. biocube Wednesday #28

Where do you find that information? MineralMan Wednesday #30

Rural America is grossly over represented in the Senate Bristlecone Wednesday #35

Idaho has the same power as the probably the 4th largest economy in the world. CA. Laughable. kairos12 Wednesday #60

the Electoral College served a purpose way back Skittles Wednesday #39

"...get the fuck rid of it" 3catwoman3 Wednesday #62

One Flaw In Your Logic... ProfessorGAC Wednesday #41

It doesn't matter what any of us think about the Electoral College. yardwork Wednesday #42

Land doesn't vote, people do obamanut2012 Wednesday #43

Yes saw that above, you can read my response from above. 31j20b3 Wednesday #44

If its a country by the people, for the people, then the majority of the people are who's in charge sboatcar Wednesday #46

No that can't really be allowed to stand. Places with small populations must be protected 31j20b3 Wednesday #56

The electoral college was a compromise to protect slave states. sboatcar Yesterday #85

I agree. OC375 Wednesday #47

We're talking about people here, not "big cities" Stargleamer Wednesday #55

Yep OC375 Wednesday #65

I do. RandySF Wednesday #53

Dumping the electoral college doesn't eliminate representative government DFW Wednesday #58

I respectfully disagree. Congressional districts have an equal number of population. But each state gets 2 Senators. surfered Wednesday #59

So, the Senate should be abolished? MichMan Wednesday #68

No. We should go to a popular vote for President. It won't happen though without a Constitutional Amendment, which surfered Wednesday #70

I'm not sure that can be done The Revolution Wednesday #71

"Dumping the electoral college shifts democracy would great shift the influences of cities and metro-megalopoli"... GOOD FascismIsDeath Wednesday #69

It won't happen in any case The Revolution Wednesday #72

It should have been done away with 150 years ago. Emile Yesterday #75

Citizens United is a bigger problem bucolic_frolic Yesterday #76

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who seem to think that some magic portal will open... OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #79

White Supremacy / Apartheid is the main LuvLoogie Yesterday #80

Trees don't vote. I'm sick of hearing about Middle America. I live in Middle America and always have lived rural. AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #82

One of the problems with the electoral college... returnee Yesterday #84

Bad Take, IMO. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #86

I strongly disagree LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #87

When the system rewards losing more votes, democracy starts to look like a coin toss rigged from the start. LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #88

"shift the influences of cities and metro-megalopoli" - NO, it's shifts it more towards PEOPLE and not land themaguffin Yesterday #91

I support the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #93

Just to correct the figures muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #94