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31j20b3

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54. Well the E. C. is hardly tyranny is it???? That seems like rather extreme hyperbole.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:37 PM
20 hrs ago

What we have is a system that empowers ALL people, in EVERY STATE to participate in the processes of government. All the processes.

NOTHING about our system puts Rhode Island in a circumstance with tyrannical powers over California, Texas, Florida or New York.

The solutions the writers of the Constitution, and those who endorsed it as the guidance for the nation solved many of the problems that would emerge with the destruction of the E.C. and then the erosion of powers of lesser states in the face of overwhelming power of the 10 states that hold 70% of the population.

Direct popular vote would cede to people who who live in America's 10 greatest megolopoli, and care about little other than their megalopis' power all functional political power.

That would certainly seriously burden if not destroy economies in the US that are not urban

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Electoral College gave us Trump in 2016. hlthe2b 23 hrs ago #1
Totally disagree. House of Roberts 23 hrs ago #2
I'm ok with you disagreeing. Really 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #13
The House provides the local representation that you wnylib 21 hrs ago #48
In part, yes. But imagine 20 years of presidents with no appreciation 31j20b3 20 hrs ago #49
I disagree that the president will soon have the power to wnylib 20 hrs ago #57
I think you may be in a dangerous delusion,THIS IS WHAT TRUMP IS DOING NOW 31j20b3 20 hrs ago #63
I have no delusions or illusions about the state we are in. wnylib 19 hrs ago #67
Yep. bamagal62 20 hrs ago #52
Dirt doesn't vote Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #3
Better said than my more verbose attempt Bettie 23 hrs ago #7
Rob Sand might well be your next governor DFW 20 hrs ago #51
I sure hope so Bettie 15 hrs ago #73
I share your assessment of him. DFW 15 hrs ago #74
This message was self-deleted by its author DinahMoeHum 9 hrs ago #77
Josh Turek may be your next US Senator DinahMoeHum 9 hrs ago #78
True. But people who choose how to run a Representative Democracy must consider 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #17
I don't see how any of this addresses the problems with the "tyranny of the minority" Stargleamer 20 hrs ago #50
Well the E. C. is hardly tyranny is it???? That seems like rather extreme hyperbole. 31j20b3 20 hrs ago #54
It can be if it brings about a tyranny. . . Stargleamer 20 hrs ago #61
Your argument really obscures the power that your visions of equal representation in the Senate and guarantee of 1 31j20b3 19 hrs ago #66
Yes, TYRANNY is EXACTLY what it is. Hillary Clinton WON the niyad 7 hrs ago #83
Dirt shouldn't vote Freddie 23 hrs ago #27
Exactly OnionPatch 7 hrs ago #81
Suspect you are new to the impact of elections on cachukis 23 hrs ago #4
You're suspicion is actually quite flawed as most sweeping assumptions are 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #18
Just relying on your attitude about the electoral college cachukis 23 hrs ago #19
Yes as in a sweeping over generalization 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #22
Regardless. The electoral college was set up, ultimately, cachukis 22 hrs ago #31
Actually one vote means one vote. All votes equal. All politicians campaigning must reach all voters. Nanjeanne 23 hrs ago #5
If slavery was the only idea behind the electoral college... but today it ISN'T 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #25
I outlined the 3 reasons. None are valid now IMHO. Rural voters would still need to be wooed. No Nanjeanne 22 hrs ago #33
Nting sweeping assumptions here: "Rural life s built around harvesting and extracting resources," c-rational 22 hrs ago #40
"Rural life is built around harvesting and extracting resources" . . . seriously? markpkessinger 5 hrs ago #92
Despite the majority of Americans who would like to change the electoral college, it will likely walkingman 23 hrs ago #6
One citizen, one vote. Johonny 23 hrs ago #8
Maybe. maybe not. 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #20
Is this a sweeping assumption? CivicGrief 23 hrs ago #23
Mighty big assumption on your part. Phoenix61 23 hrs ago #24
I also totally disagree. Eliminating the electoral college means EVERY VOTE COUNTS. Now, only votes in a few swing Fil1957 23 hrs ago #9
"If the college were eliminated, candidates would visit many more states to get every vote they can." MichMan 23 hrs ago #21
It's really not about candidates visiting, it's about what enters the national conversation 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #26
Yes they would, absolutely. It's true they wouldn't visit Montana or the Dakotas, but there are many states that are Fil1957 19 hrs ago #64
The republican college lame54 23 hrs ago #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #11
Since the change would require a MineralMan 23 hrs ago #12
True, but practical imposition isn't my consideration 31j20b3 22 hrs ago #29
Then your subject is irrelevant. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #32
It's a shame you think the national economy made up of all its parts is irrelevant 31j20b3 22 hrs ago #36
But i don't think that. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #38
I support The 'National Popular Vote Interstate Compact' LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #89
The state of Virginia is the latest state to join the National Popular Vote Compact LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #90
Would force candidates to campaign all over the country instead of concentrating on swing state YorkRd 23 hrs ago #14
UNfortunately that deflects things into the party competitions and thats a mistake 31j20b3 22 hrs ago #34
I don't think rural America has anything to worry about. BannonsLiver 23 hrs ago #15
Also, rural areas tend to be dominated by a few wealthy white people. yardwork 22 hrs ago #45
Each state has two Senators.... SergeStorms 23 hrs ago #16
And each state must have at least one Congress person. 31j20b3 22 hrs ago #37
There's a compromise position. biocube 22 hrs ago #28
Where do you find that information? MineralMan 22 hrs ago #30
Rural America is grossly over represented in the Senate Bristlecone 22 hrs ago #35
Idaho has the same power as the probably the 4th largest economy in the world. CA. Laughable. kairos12 20 hrs ago #60
the Electoral College served a purpose way back Skittles 22 hrs ago #39
"...get the fuck rid of it" 3catwoman3 20 hrs ago #62
One Flaw In Your Logic... ProfessorGAC 22 hrs ago #41
It doesn't matter what any of us think about the Electoral College. yardwork 22 hrs ago #42
Land doesn't vote, people do obamanut2012 22 hrs ago #43
Yes saw that above, you can read my response from above. 31j20b3 22 hrs ago #44
If its a country by the people, for the people, then the majority of the people are who's in charge sboatcar 21 hrs ago #46
No that can't really be allowed to stand. Places with small populations must be protected 31j20b3 20 hrs ago #56
The electoral college was a compromise to protect slave states. sboatcar 6 hrs ago #85
I agree. OC375 21 hrs ago #47
We're talking about people here, not "big cities" Stargleamer 20 hrs ago #55
Yep OC375 19 hrs ago #65
I do. RandySF 20 hrs ago #53
Dumping the electoral college doesn't eliminate representative government DFW 20 hrs ago #58
I respectfully disagree. Congressional districts have an equal number of population. But each state gets 2 Senators. surfered 20 hrs ago #59
So, the Senate should be abolished? MichMan 18 hrs ago #68
No. We should go to a popular vote for President. It won't happen though without a Constitutional Amendment, which surfered 18 hrs ago #70
I'm not sure that can be done The Revolution 17 hrs ago #71
"Dumping the electoral college shifts democracy would great shift the influences of cities and metro-megalopoli"... GOOD FascismIsDeath 18 hrs ago #69
It won't happen in any case The Revolution 16 hrs ago #72
It should have been done away with 150 years ago. Emile 9 hrs ago #75
Citizens United is a bigger problem bucolic_frolic 9 hrs ago #76
Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who seem to think that some magic portal will open... OldBaldy1701E 8 hrs ago #79
White Supremacy / Apartheid is the main LuvLoogie 8 hrs ago #80
Trees don't vote. I'm sick of hearing about Middle America. I live in Middle America and always have lived rural. AZLD4Candidate 7 hrs ago #82
One of the problems with the electoral college... returnee 7 hrs ago #84
Bad Take, IMO. Happy Hoosier 6 hrs ago #86
I strongly disagree LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #87
When the system rewards losing more votes, democracy starts to look like a coin toss rigged from the start. LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #88
"shift the influences of cities and metro-megalopoli" - NO, it's shifts it more towards PEOPLE and not land themaguffin 5 hrs ago #91
I support the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #93
Just to correct the figures muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #94
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