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59. I respectfully disagree. Congressional districts have an equal number of population. But each state gets 2 Senators.

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Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:52 PM

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This means the 1 million people of So Dakota get 2 electoral votes and California’s 39 million people get 2 electoral votes. That’s just not equal representation.

Land does not vote, people do.

It was a compromise for the slave states, our original sin.

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Americans mostly back dumping the electoral college, i don't [View all] 31j20b3 Yesterday OP

Electoral College gave us Trump in 2016. hlthe2b Yesterday #1

Totally disagree. House of Roberts Yesterday #2

I'm ok with you disagreeing. Really 31j20b3 Yesterday #13

The House provides the local representation that you wnylib Yesterday #48

In part, yes. But imagine 20 years of presidents with no appreciation 31j20b3 Yesterday #49

I disagree that the president will soon have the power to wnylib Yesterday #57

I think you may be in a dangerous delusion,THIS IS WHAT TRUMP IS DOING NOW 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #63

I have no delusions or illusions about the state we are in. wnylib 23 hrs ago #67

Yep. bamagal62 Yesterday #52

Dirt doesn't vote Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #3

Better said than my more verbose attempt Bettie Yesterday #7

Rob Sand might well be your next governor DFW Yesterday #51

I sure hope so Bettie 19 hrs ago #73

I share your assessment of him. DFW 19 hrs ago #74

This message was self-deleted by its author DinahMoeHum 12 hrs ago #77

Josh Turek may be your next US Senator DinahMoeHum 12 hrs ago #78

True. But people who choose how to run a Representative Democracy must consider 31j20b3 Yesterday #17

I don't see how any of this addresses the problems with the "tyranny of the minority" Stargleamer Yesterday #50

Well the E. C. is hardly tyranny is it???? That seems like rather extreme hyperbole. 31j20b3 Yesterday #54

It can be if it brings about a tyranny. . . Stargleamer 23 hrs ago #61

Your argument really obscures the power that your visions of equal representation in the Senate and guarantee of 1 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #66

Yes, TYRANNY is EXACTLY what it is. Hillary Clinton WON the niyad 11 hrs ago #83

Dirt shouldn't vote Freddie Yesterday #27

Exactly OnionPatch 11 hrs ago #81

Suspect you are new to the impact of elections on cachukis Yesterday #4

You're suspicion is actually quite flawed as most sweeping assumptions are 31j20b3 Yesterday #18

Just relying on your attitude about the electoral college cachukis Yesterday #19

Yes as in a sweeping over generalization 31j20b3 Yesterday #22

Regardless. The electoral college was set up, ultimately, cachukis Yesterday #31

Actually one vote means one vote. All votes equal. All politicians campaigning must reach all voters. Nanjeanne Yesterday #5

If slavery was the only idea behind the electoral college... but today it ISN'T 31j20b3 Yesterday #25

I outlined the 3 reasons. None are valid now IMHO. Rural voters would still need to be wooed. No Nanjeanne Yesterday #33

Nting sweeping assumptions here: "Rural life s built around harvesting and extracting resources," c-rational Yesterday #40

"Rural life is built around harvesting and extracting resources" . . . seriously? markpkessinger 9 hrs ago #92

Despite the majority of Americans who would like to change the electoral college, it will likely walkingman Yesterday #6

One citizen, one vote. Johonny Yesterday #8

Maybe. maybe not. 31j20b3 Yesterday #20

Is this a sweeping assumption? CivicGrief Yesterday #23

Mighty big assumption on your part. Phoenix61 Yesterday #24

I also totally disagree. Eliminating the electoral college means EVERY VOTE COUNTS. Now, only votes in a few swing Fil1957 Yesterday #9

"If the college were eliminated, candidates would visit many more states to get every vote they can." MichMan Yesterday #21

It's really not about candidates visiting, it's about what enters the national conversation 31j20b3 Yesterday #26

Yes they would, absolutely. It's true they wouldn't visit Montana or the Dakotas, but there are many states that are Fil1957 23 hrs ago #64

The republican college lame54 Yesterday #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Yesterday #11

Since the change would require a MineralMan Yesterday #12

True, but practical imposition isn't my consideration 31j20b3 Yesterday #29

Then your subject is irrelevant. MineralMan Yesterday #32

It's a shame you think the national economy made up of all its parts is irrelevant 31j20b3 Yesterday #36

But i don't think that. MineralMan Yesterday #38

I support The 'National Popular Vote Interstate Compact' LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #89

The state of Virginia is the latest state to join the National Popular Vote Compact LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #90

Would force candidates to campaign all over the country instead of concentrating on swing state YorkRd Yesterday #14

UNfortunately that deflects things into the party competitions and thats a mistake 31j20b3 Yesterday #34

I don't think rural America has anything to worry about. BannonsLiver Yesterday #15

Also, rural areas tend to be dominated by a few wealthy white people. yardwork Yesterday #45

Each state has two Senators.... SergeStorms Yesterday #16

And each state must have at least one Congress person. 31j20b3 Yesterday #37

There's a compromise position. biocube Yesterday #28

Where do you find that information? MineralMan Yesterday #30

Rural America is grossly over represented in the Senate Bristlecone Yesterday #35

Idaho has the same power as the probably the 4th largest economy in the world. CA. Laughable. kairos12 23 hrs ago #60

the Electoral College served a purpose way back Skittles Yesterday #39

"...get the fuck rid of it" 3catwoman3 23 hrs ago #62

One Flaw In Your Logic... ProfessorGAC Yesterday #41

It doesn't matter what any of us think about the Electoral College. yardwork Yesterday #42

Land doesn't vote, people do obamanut2012 Yesterday #43

Yes saw that above, you can read my response from above. 31j20b3 Yesterday #44

If its a country by the people, for the people, then the majority of the people are who's in charge sboatcar Yesterday #46

No that can't really be allowed to stand. Places with small populations must be protected 31j20b3 Yesterday #56

The electoral college was a compromise to protect slave states. sboatcar 10 hrs ago #85

I agree. OC375 Yesterday #47

We're talking about people here, not "big cities" Stargleamer Yesterday #55

Yep OC375 23 hrs ago #65

I do. RandySF Yesterday #53

Dumping the electoral college doesn't eliminate representative government DFW Yesterday #58

I respectfully disagree. Congressional districts have an equal number of population. But each state gets 2 Senators. surfered Yesterday #59

So, the Senate should be abolished? MichMan 22 hrs ago #68

No. We should go to a popular vote for President. It won't happen though without a Constitutional Amendment, which surfered 22 hrs ago #70

I'm not sure that can be done The Revolution 20 hrs ago #71

"Dumping the electoral college shifts democracy would great shift the influences of cities and metro-megalopoli"... GOOD FascismIsDeath 22 hrs ago #69

It won't happen in any case The Revolution 20 hrs ago #72

It should have been done away with 150 years ago. Emile 13 hrs ago #75

Citizens United is a bigger problem bucolic_frolic 13 hrs ago #76

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who seem to think that some magic portal will open... OldBaldy1701E 12 hrs ago #79

White Supremacy / Apartheid is the main LuvLoogie 12 hrs ago #80

Trees don't vote. I'm sick of hearing about Middle America. I live in Middle America and always have lived rural. AZLD4Candidate 11 hrs ago #82

One of the problems with the electoral college... returnee 11 hrs ago #84

Bad Take, IMO. Happy Hoosier 10 hrs ago #86

I strongly disagree LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #87

When the system rewards losing more votes, democracy starts to look like a coin toss rigged from the start. LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #88

"shift the influences of cities and metro-megalopoli" - NO, it's shifts it more towards PEOPLE and not land themaguffin 9 hrs ago #91

I support the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #93

Just to correct the figures muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #94