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85. "The socialists saw Roosevelt's liberalism as applying Band-Aides to capitalism to save it from a political

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revolution leading to socialism. Whenever Norman Thomas, the six-time Socialist presidential candidate, was asked if FDR was carrying out his socialist program, he would answer with one of his famous quips such as, 'Yes, he is carrying it out in a coffin.' ... Roosevelt's liberalism was a new, middle path, one step to the left of Hoover's conservative, small-government philosophy, and two steps to the right of socialism." Steven Stoft

Democrats are accused of only "tinkering/nibbling around the edges" -- "They're more interested in clinging to power than allow a grassroots mobilization which has the potential to transform America. They've become an impediment to that." Bernie Sanders

FDR was a liberal Democrat same as the modern Democratic Party. Don't listen to anyone who says FDR was a democratic socialist. It's the 21st century. (Also, FDR was a wealthy 1% establishment elite capitalist to his bones and people should stop weaponizing those words against Democrats.)

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i don't think Jeffries understands the new reality. Mamdani doesn't need the party. the party needs him. [View all] demmiblue Jun 24 OP

If the majority of voters Scubamatt Jun 24 #1

Read the room Congressman Jeffries. The grass roots of the party demands a change to progressive policies. flashman13 Jun 25 #98

Photo says it all. mr715 Jun 24 #2

Actually they need each other SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #3

Yes they do! Too many don't seem to get Cha Jun 24 #46

Don't mistake NYC Democrats MineralMan Jun 24 #4

Yeah, and all three won. choie Jun 24 #59

8 and 8 won D00ver66 Jun 24 #67

Agree. I grew up in NYC. Moving to the South was eye opening. nt Blasphemer Jun 24 #68

Hell, going to Staten Island SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #88

Good point. I think people are getting somewhat carried away. Redleg Jun 24 #72

Good God, the DSA is a political party. intheflow Jun 24 #5

But intheflow... choie Jun 24 #60

. intheflow Jun 25 #87

I think that would be a GOOD thing - put numbers to theories about what the majority of Dems want. nt Blasphemer Jun 24 #69

Carville is out there encouraging just that: demmiblue Jun 24 #71

Does the party actually need Mamdani senseandsensibility Jun 24 #6

He has never run in Georgia, but I suspect if he ever did he'd know how to win. mr715 Jun 24 #8

You're right, he would know how to win in Georgia SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Nixie Jun 25 #80

He has said he has no ambitions beyond being mayor. But we'll see how that goes. Scrivener7 Jun 24 #14

If a politician ever says they aren't thinking about higher office... mr715 Jun 24 #15

How many NYC Mayors SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #21

Dinkens didn't mr715 Jun 24 #23

They ran SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #26

De Blasio won my heart. mr715 Jun 24 #29

Bless your heart ❤️ SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #30

De Blasio didn't get enough credit for fixing the Bloomberg technocracy mr715 Jun 24 #32

Very true SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #33

They both ran for higher office but it didn't work out BeyondGeography Jun 24 #28

Well, he can't run for president, so how much more important... LAS14 Jun 24 #18

Bishop v. Knight mr715 Jun 24 #24

He endorsed 3 candidates, he has ambitions. dem4decades Jun 24 #35

Yes, he wants NYC to thrive. Quiet Em Jun 24 #56

Goldman was holding NY back exactly how? dem4decades Jun 24 #64

I am not saying that at all. Quiet Em Jun 24 #66

He wasn't born in the US fujiyamasan Jun 24 #42

Mayor of NYC is very intense Cosmocat Jun 24 #45

Eric Adams did it while learning Turkish mr715 Jun 24 #51

and while being corrupt. choie Jun 24 #63

Totally agree! choie Jun 24 #61

Here in red western NY, we chose a far left candidate for the House. wnylib Jun 24 #16

Is Jeffries smoking something? JBTaurus83 Jun 24 #7

Jeffries was unopposed in his primary yesterday SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #9

He will win his district, but the House picks its leader. mr715 Jun 24 #17

True SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #19

No one needs to be making drama. mr715 Jun 24 #22

But it still doesn't make him SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #25

He is objectively not going out the door. mr715 Jun 24 #27

Exactly my point SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #31

If I might suggest Bob_in_VA Jun 24 #40

Actually the comment was SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #44

He needs Mamdani's candidates to be in his caucus! mr715 Jun 24 #10

I hope they vote with him, no one needs that bull. dem4decades Jun 24 #36

Don't want to see the Kevin McCarthy humiliation on our side? mr715 Jun 24 #37

Couldn't have happened to a better coif. dem4decades Jun 24 #53

No. Leader Jeffries is not going to be Cha Jun 24 #47

Here's the reality Quiet Em Jun 24 #11

yes, totally agree. LymphocyteLover Jun 24 #39

Mahalo, Em.. ☮️💙🌻🕯️🕊️ Cha Jun 24 #49

Yes, pushing an imaginary war as if there's a huge ideological/moral Grand Canyon in the party does not help progress. betsuni Jun 24 #74

No he didn't! Please tell me he didn't! Scrivener7 Jun 24 #12

I didn't hear that MorbidButterflyTat Jun 24 #20

Lol at "..the fiend!!!!" Seems like some Cha Jun 24 #57

Oh yes Jeffries does................ Lovie777 Jun 24 #34

Never did understand Pelosi's choice of him to promote Joinfortmill Jun 24 #38

His job is to count votes & keep the caucus together, not necessarily be a great progressive spokesperson for the party LymphocyteLover Jun 24 #41

I think he's also responsible for overall strategy. Joinfortmill Jun 24 #55

Yes, but presumably that's a group decision, not his alone LymphocyteLover Jun 25 #86

Wow. HuffPo certainly, uh, chose some pictures for that post Sympthsical Jun 24 #43

Good grief. QueerDuck Jun 24 #48

You had a choice Congressman. Buddyzbuddy Jun 24 #50

Jeez just say Congratulations to the winners and that you welcome them into the House and are eager to work together. Nanjeanne Jun 24 #52

It is kind of hard, Nanjeanne.... sheshe2 Jun 25 #81

Well that's true but their districts are solidly blue and it would be rare to lose. Besides optimism in their win would Nanjeanne Jun 25 #90

It appears to be LilElf70 Jun 24 #54

The arrogance. choie Jun 24 #58

The party needs another FDR. orthoclad Jun 24 #62

Someone who would SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #77

A good reminder of why deifying politicians is never a good idea fujiyamasan Jun 25 #82

AND create this Frankensystem of health care orthoclad Jun 25 #94

The two biggest demographic groups SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #96

This one? usonian Jun 25 #79

I'll look for it. orthoclad Jun 25 #93

That's Barry Bostwick as FDR, known to many as "Brad" of Brad and Janet in The Rocky Horror Picture Show. usonian Jun 25 #97

"The socialists saw Roosevelt's liberalism as applying Band-Aides to capitalism to save it from a political betsuni Jun 25 #85

Well said SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #89

A very real possibility orthoclad Jun 25 #95

Radicals complain that liberals orthoclad Jun 25 #92

If would be nice if for just once, the centrist Democrats would wake up, smell the coffee, read the room, etc. Fil1957 Jun 24 #65

The lack of critical thinking really bothers me MorbidButterflyTat Jun 24 #70

Democrats must stay united against our common enemy, no matter what dlk Jun 24 #73

That poster is extremely disrespectful to Jeffries gulliver Jun 24 #75

It's called politics. But it's against the law to pass up any opportunity to call Democrats corrupt or stupid. betsuni Jun 25 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Nixie Jun 25 #78

Polarizing the party helps Republicans wreck the country and ensures no progress. betsuni Jun 25 #83

TY Nixie for that on Rep Jeffries being on Psaki's Cha Jun 25 #84

Jeffries needs to "patch things up" with grass roots Democrats, while he still has the chance Bluetus Jun 25 #91