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cab67

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25. It's not necessarily a matter of politics.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 03:48 PM
Jun 28

Or if it is, it doesn't necessarily have to do with the president.

Many universities are being approached by tech companies to use their AI services as an adjunct to other modes of education. These can be expensive, so universities are offered discounted "educational" rates, and administrators are being told it's the way of the future. There is thus a disconnect between some (not all) in the administration and most (though sadly not all) faculty when it comes to this sort of thing. Faculty are being encouraged to use AI, or to let students use it, in spite of the clear evidence that (a) AI is unreliable and (b) even when it's reliable, it's harmful to the educational process.

A survey was sent to us a couple of weeks ago asking how we integrate AI in our classes. My answer was very brief - I forbid its use.

The same thing happened when instructional technology first became a thing in the 1990's. I was happy to use PowerPoint for pictures because it meant I wouldn't have to sort through slides and put them away, but otherwise, I saw little use in some of the multimedia packages we were encouraged to use. All I could see was that students stopped taking notes the minute some sort of digital resource was made available. DIdn't have to be online, either - it could have been a CD-ROM that came with a textbook.

I haven't really been hit with pressure to use AI at my own institution, but I have colleagues elsewhere who have. It's about money, yes, but not necessarily about national politics.

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Most enlightening information, thank you for bringing it here for us Attilatheblond Jun 28 #1
Who needs higher education when you can fake your way through life. nt ImNotGod Jun 28 #2
As expressed by a member of... 2naSalit Jun 28 #9
To someone.... SergeStorms Jun 28 #23
There is a reason med schools don't allow take-home exams dalton99a Jun 28 #3
I want to know which AI tool they were using RandomNumbers Jun 28 #4
Those AI models you mentioned were all illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. I'm sorry highplainsdem Jun 28 #10
Not necessarily in the case of how I use it for work. RandomNumbers Jun 28 #13
Cory Doctorow teaches us what AI can and cannot use, and why most of what AI uses is not stealing intellectual property. ancianita Jun 28 #31
I like Cory and often agree with him, and he'd sometimes repost my comments when I was still highplainsdem Jun 28 #34
And btw, Cory isn't in agreement with most creators of intellectual property on copyright: highplainsdem Jun 28 #35
probably cuz it's a narrow subject. mopinko Jun 28 #12
Narrow subjects aren't necessarily immune to the problem. cab67 Jun 28 #22
Clever prof! nt LAS14 Jun 28 #5
universities will take the money, thus prostituting their values by bending over for trump msongs Jun 28 #6
It's not necessarily a matter of politics. cab67 Jun 28 #25
And yet, certain DUers think this is just fine and we're yelling at clouds. Coventina Jun 28 #7
Certain DUers think using AI to cheat on exams if "just fine". Disaffected Jun 28 #15
thread from a few days ago Coventina Jun 28 #16
OK, I skimmed that thread and didn't see any posts Disaffected Jun 28 #18
I'm not going to call out specific people, as that is against DU TOS. Coventina Jun 28 #19
Sorry but I cannot draw inferences that are not there. Disaffected Jun 28 #20
Are you seriously making a case that coming into a thread about AI threats to Coventina Jun 28 #28
That's some serious goalpost moving there. Disaffected Jun 28 #29
This is sad and worrying. yardwork Jun 28 #8
it's a brilliant solution imho. mopinko Jun 28 #11
Yes Kaleva Jun 28 #14
I remember the dreaded individual oral exams administered by no-nonsense Jesuits at the end of each semester, sop Jun 28 #33
But they can't write cursive! Mossfern Jun 28 #38
Take home, closed book exams?? Disaffected Jun 28 #17
It's right on my syllabus. cab67 Jun 28 #21
This gets a bit murky but, Disaffected Jun 28 #27
wary. cab67 Jun 28 #30
Interesting and well put. Disaffected Jun 28 #36
If only.... SergeStorms Jun 28 #24
Just based on my reading history, El Pais is another fantastic non-US M$M outlet erronis Jun 28 #26
The only way to deal with this Matthew28 Jun 28 #32
I find it fascinating... kentuck Jun 28 #37
Older but wiser Mossfern Jun 28 #39
I think that the younger generations anciano Jun 28 #40
This is a problem. cab67 Jun 28 #41
See reply 42. highplainsdem Jun 28 #43
I guess you've missed the news stories about polls showing younger users have a lower opinion of AI highplainsdem Jun 28 #42
I think the appropriate and responsible use of AI anciano Jun 28 #44
Generative AI tools are unethical because they're illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem Jun 28 #45
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