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wnylib

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24. That might be what he meant but I don't agree.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 08:36 PM
Jun 30

After some years, an American who became a naturalized citizen of France would be regarded as French by many people, especially if he or she lost their accent. People would probably not forget the American origins, but would accept the citizenship.

Here in the US, a frequent American conversation is to discuss ethnic heritage. Hyphenated IDs are common, e.g. Irish-American or German-American.

I spent my early childhood in a neighborhood that always seems to attract the latest wave of immigrants. My mother had lived there as a child when there were German and some eastern European immigrants there, plus a couple Italian immigrants. My parents bought their first house from a German speaking Hungarian family friend in the neighborhood.

My mother was first generation American of German parents. My great aunt, who was born in Germany lived with us after her husband died. But the neighborhood had become primarily Italian-American by then. Older couples there were Italian immigrants. Younger couples were first and second generation Italian-American.

We all got along well enough with different holiday customs and religions. But the German, Italian, and Hungarian identities were strong. People did not say, "I'm Italian-American." Or, "I'm German-American." They said, "I'm Italian." Or, "I'm German."

The same thing was true of the other side of town, which was primarily Polish. And the Irish and Russisn neighborhoods were the same.

Even in high school where we met kids from other neighborhoods, kids from old WASP families who had been in America since colonial times identified themselves as Scots, Scots-Irish, Anglo-Saxon English, or Norman English.

In the US, people keep their ancestral ethnic identities for generations.


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For Lurking MAGAS [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 OP
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That's a veritable threefer DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #2
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We are discussing whether or not we are a creedal nation. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #4
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A creedal nation or a Blut and Boden Nation DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #8
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for fucks sake Kali Jun 30 #12
PREACH IT KALI Skittles Jun 30 #31
Are you saying some people are incapable of assimilating? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #13
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That's not what today's decision was about. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jun 30 #30
Thier behavior I_UndergroundPanther Jul 1 #34
Fall-atio[sic]??? Ronnie Raygun??? ultralite001 Jul 1 #43
What flavour pizza do you like? niyad Jun 30 #14
It was this flavor Cha Jun 30 #26
St. Ronnie Raygun was wrong in his statement about not becoming wnylib Jun 30 #6
He is saying being an American is larger and deeper DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #18
That might be what he meant but I don't agree. wnylib Jun 30 #24
I see your point. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #25
I beg to disagree. I am proud of my heritage. That doesn't mean we don't think of ourselves as 100% American. We Wonder Why Jun 30 #28
My mom's family left Russia after the Revolution of 1905 DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #29
I am lnot saying that there is no pride among immigrants and their wnylib Jun 30 #32
All of those nations have a naturalization process. paulkienitz Jun 30 #19
My friend moved to Vietnam years ago. JohnnyRingo Jul 1 #42
You know times are tough when Ronald Reagan quotes are being posted in a positive light on DU. Fil1957 Jun 30 #7
No kidding. calimary Jun 30 #9
Powerful endorsement of the sentiment we are a creedal nation and not a Blut and Boden one. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #10
I'm sure he was just reading his script. Scruffy1 Jul 1 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author BumRushDaShow Jun 30 #17
Ronald Reagan couldn't be elected with today's GOP progressoid Jun 30 #20
Today's MAGA Repigs would view R. Reagan as a liberal and, as you said, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 30 #21
For Lurking MAGAS: Dave Bowman Jun 30 #22
Thank you for posting this Vogon_Glory Jun 30 #23
I voted for Carter and Mondale, of course. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #27
Well said. Thank you. WestMichRad Jun 30 #33
You're welcome. The source is immaterial. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 1 #35
MAGA don't care about Reagan. Try it, you can say bad things about him and they won't even blink LT Barclay Jul 1 #36
Well, we all know what a commie leftist pinko Reagan was. Right? Ray Bruns Jul 1 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jul 1 #38
MAGA Influencers hate him because he didn't hate immigrants enough. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 1 #39
Peggy Noonan on that first one, I think. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 1 #41
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