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50. I can't read the article, but from the excerpt, Jonathan Chait

Fri Jul 3, 2026, 02:10 PM

Jul 3

uses many quotes from ONE candidate to define anyone running as a Democratic Socialist.

I recognized the name, but looked at the author's wikipedia page. What I found is that he attacked Elizabeth Warren on a charter school issue, not disclosing his wife is a charter school advocate.

Although there are other questionable things, his political acumen stinks. He wrote a piece in favor of Trump getting the Republican nomination seeing him like Schwarzenegger, a fellow celebrity. It does mention he more recently has seen him as a threat to democracy.

I would bet that most California Democrats had a problem with the implicit idea that their celebrity governors, which could include Reagan too, were not a bad idea. Not to mention, he had to know Trump's reputation as a bully.

I suspect that like any group, some of the people running as DS will be terrible and others constructive. I also wonder who big a DS caucus each house could have in 2027. Will it be as big as the self named problem solvers?

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] lapucelle Jul 3 OP

The AIPAC supported Status Quo fights back against those who would change the inertia-saturated system Fiendish Thingy Jul 3 #1

The article is about the DSA, not progressives. The two shouldn't be conflated. lapucelle Jul 3 #4

neither Lander nor Raskin wrote that article. nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 3 #6

The article is about the organization known as DSA. Neither Lander nor Raskin belong to it. N/T lapucelle Jul 3 #8

So why bring them up? Fiendish Thingy Jul 3 #19

are we really going to try to paint Democratic Socialism as (in the main) stopdiggin Jul 3 #2

I Do Have Genuine Concerns Though ProfessorGAC Jul 3 #5

me too. r they our tea party? mopinko Jul 3 #18

I'm waiting to see what platform recommendations the full membership actually ratifies at their convention this month. lapucelle Jul 3 #7

The article is about the organization DSA, not Democratic Socialism [sic] in the main or otherwise. lapucelle Jul 3 #9

Chait's endless cope is actually one of the more amusing things about the DSA phenomenon Prairie Gates Jul 3 #3

Is every liberal commentar's *endless cope* also one of the "more amusing things" about the Trump phenomena? N/T lapucelle Jul 3 #11

So, you're conflating DSA and Trump as the same thing? Bettie Jul 3 #12

Awwww Prairie Gates Jul 3 #16

Jonathan Chait? The guy who wrote "Why Liberals Should Support a Trump Republican Nomination"? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 3 #10

Yup. As ill-advised in hindsight as Eddie Glaude's "My Democratic Problem With Voting for Hillary Clinton", lapucelle Jul 3 #15

I need to stop being surprised at how many people would much rather ponder the possibility of voting for a Republican WhiskeyGrinder Jul 3 #20

Did you read the Chait article itself or simply the headline? lapucelle Jul 3 #23

Boom! mcar Jul 3 #25

DSA, the organization, is not our friend and is not on our side. DavidDvorkin Jul 3 #13

Why do you say that? TVguyCards Jul 3 #39

Because they win elections and we can't have nice things. mr715 Jul 3 #57

Jonathan Chait? The guy who wrote "Why Liberals Should Support A Trump Nomination" in 2016? Nanjeanne Jul 3 #14

That snappy rejoinder was already used. (See above.) lapucelle Jul 3 #17

Snappy rejoinder? Oh gee . . . forgive me. I still welcome your constant attention though -- so thanks. Nanjeanne Jul 3 #28

Not EVEN! Jilly_in_VA Jul 3 #41

A sprinkle of socialism scares centrists, Emile Jul 3 #21

The artcle is about the organization known as DSA, not socialism. N/T lapucelle Jul 3 #26

What does the initials DSA stand for? Emile Jul 3 #30

Be careful -- universal healthcare is the gateway drug to antisemitism. mr715 Jul 3 #45

To my mind, the way the DSA talks and acts sarisataka Jul 3 #22

adapt or lose mr715 Jul 3 #24

Is that advice for Democrats to adopt the platform and strictures of the organization called DSA? lapucelle Jul 3 #29

Adopt, not adopt Cirsium Jul 3 #34

Yes. I support the DSA. mr715 Jul 3 #42

I'll take the word of a DSA supported dem any day over LostOne4Ever Jul 3 #27

The article is about the organization called the DSA, not the Democrats they support. N/T lapucelle Jul 3 #31

And my reply is about DSA supported Dems and LostOne4Ever Jul 3 #37

While I may not agree with all of the DSA positions, I sure do.. mvd Jul 3 #49

Other than the fact that they're Democrats. Iggo Jul 3 #32

Registering with the Democratic Party in order to run on the Democratic Party ballot line lapucelle Jul 3 #38

Do you enjoy your coffee without coffee? mr715 Jul 3 #43

Your list of favorite beverages is fascinating Thank you for sharing! lapucelle Jul 3 #46

If we ever get the opportunity to share breakfast, mr715 Jul 3 #48

What is the DSA..... walkingman Jul 3 #33

I think that what separates the DSA from Democrats lapucelle Jul 3 #51

I seem to remember a bunch of Democrats winning primaries... mr715 Jul 3 #55

And open borders. RandomNumbers Jul 3 #56

I'm from NYC... mr715 Jul 3 #58

Well if Democrats don't get elected ACROSS THE COUNTRY RandomNumbers Jul 3 #59

I'm only speaking for me, and my position is moral mr715 Jul 3 #62

As far as I'm concerned... GiqueCee Jul 3 #35

Yeah, and Jilly_in_VA Jul 3 #44

if the democratic party wants to stay center right, OK mike_c Jul 3 #36

Power to "We the People" will be demonized Emile Jul 3 #40

And crazy as it seems here on DU, posts against DSA (and Dem candidates) are supported by links to City Journal Nanjeanne Jul 3 #47

I suspect Bill Maher is a troll... mr715 Jul 3 #52

I can't read the article, but from the excerpt, Jonathan Chait karynnj Jul 3 #50

Chevalier seems to be an aberrant exception it would appear from what I am seeing/hearing hlthe2b Jul 3 #53

So now you want to declare war on our party's nominees? iemanja Jul 3 #54

Right-wing demonizes Democrats as socialist, non-right-wing demonizes Democrats as not socialist. betsuni Jul 3 #60

My work here is done. lapucelle Jul 3 #61