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NewHendoLib

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Sat Jul 4, 2026, 10:35 PM Jul 4

Here's quite a read, in the Guardian. " America is destroying itself. It's no surprise" [View all]

by Stephen Marche

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jul/04/us-history-destruction

Scholars will someday wonder how the richest country in history chose to throw it all away. But the crisis has been there since the beginning

The 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence has arrived at a moment of some embarrassment for the Republic. The United States of America, established to overthrow a mad king, has elected, 250 years later, a mad king of its very own. America is setting itself on fire at its birthday party. It always had a dramatic streak.

In 30 or 40 years, scholars of history, if they exist, will want to know how the richest country in history, with the world’s most powerful alliance network, and a scientific and research capacity fuelled by the talent of the world, chose to throw it all away.

I have been closer than most to some kind of answer. For my book The Next Civil War, I interviewed hundreds of experts, trying to fathom the underlying causes and structures of the decline. I met with extremists on the left and right. I argued that the dark dawning was coming. And yet, in some part of me, I didn’t really believe they would do it. The American self-destruction, I can only inform those future historians, is a mystery to us, too.

When did it all go wrong? Most of the researchers into political collapse that I spoke to blamed 2008, the financial crisis that crippled the dream of social mobility, but others brought up 1980, when income inequality first spiked and trust in institutions began to crater, and yet others 1876, the end of reconstruction, and those with even longer memories back to the civil war, or to the War of 1812.

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Long read, but very compelling. And yes, depressing.

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I'd say 9/11 Bristlecone Jul 4 #1
I'd say the SCOTUS theft of the 2000 election Coventina Jul 4 #2
I've always that RFK's assassination was a big turning point. Blasphemer Jul 4 #3
yup Skittles Jul 4 #4
The end of the Civil War was mishandled badly -misanthroptimist Jul 4 #5
There wasn't the will at the time. Haggard Celine Jul 4 #6
They could have at least come up with enough rope -misanthroptimist Jul 4 #8
As a kid, I used to marvel that they let Haggard Celine Jul 4 #10
Absolutely correct... displacedvermoter Sunday #30
"When did it all go wrong?" J_William_Ryan Jul 4 #7
I would add to all of the above reasons listed that Corporate Greed became so huge Marie Marie Jul 4 #9
Newt and the Moral Majority. BidenRocks Sunday #11
We never dealt with the question of slavery. BarbD Sunday #12
Reagan letting an Australian own a TV network. Grumpy Old Guy Sunday #13
Murdoch became a US citizen in 1985. He did not have controlling ownership in American telly before that. Celerity Sunday #20
Reagan got him his citizenship. Grumpy Old Guy Monday #34
KNR and bookmarking. niyad Sunday #14
I met with extremists on the left and right? Oh, really? Xipe Totec Sunday #15
Try googling "left-wing extremism" RandomNumbers Sunday #32
1996 Hieronymus Phact Sunday #16
Fox and the NRA. rubbersole Sunday #17
A radical element took over called Wayne LaPierre Hieronymus Phact Sunday #33
OK, now do the UK BaronChocula Sunday #18
The Closing of the Canadian Mind - By Stephen Marche, Aug. 14, 2015 Celerity Sunday #23
People chose entertainment and outrage bait over doing the right thing. Initech Sunday #19
The last 50 years of Republicans willfully GPV Sunday #21
Interesting. I have two main responses. yardwork Sunday #22
The failure to renew the Fairness Doctrine by the Reagan Administration in 1987 valleyrogue Sunday #25
Yes. And Citizens United made it easy for billionaires to buy elections. yardwork Sunday #28
When did it start to go haywire? valleyrogue Sunday #24
Yes. The power of corporations has grown to the point where they actually rule much of the government. Lonestarblue Sunday #31
Drum beat of talk radio BlueWaveNeverEnd Sunday #26
Much of it can be surmised as every billionaire is a policy failure... EarthFirst Sunday #27
America has intermittently "destroyed" itself. harumph Sunday #29
Robber barons corporate personhood and other laws they put in place Blue Full Moon Monday #35
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