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In reply to the discussion: Will Russia use a tactical nuke in Ukraine? [View all]SamuelTheThird
(1,642 posts)16. btw Woodward's book claims Putin was seriously considering using a nuke
Months into Russia's war in Ukraine, the United States had intelligence pointing to "highly sensitive, credible conversations inside the Kremlin" that President Vladimir Putin was seriously considering using nuclear weapons to avoid major battlefield losses, journalist Bob Woodward reported in his new book, "War."
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The US intelligence pointed to a 50% chance that Putin would use tactical nukes if Ukrainian forces surrounded 30,000 Russian troops in the southern city of Kherson, the book says. Just months before, in the far northeast, Ukrainian troops had stunned the Russians by recapturing Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-largest city, and were pivoting to liberate Kherson, strategically located on the Dnieper River not far from the Black Sea.
National security adviser Jake Sullivan stared "with dread" at the intelligence assessment − described as coming from the best sources and methods − in late September 2022, seven months after Russia's invasion, the book says. It caused alarm across the Biden administration, moving the chance of Russia using nukes up from 5% to 10% to now 50%.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/10/09/woodward-book-reveals-us-scrambled-to-urge-putin-not-to-use-nuclear-weapons-in-ukraine_6728668_4.html?srsltid=AfmBOordqcKTcDh_FUOfcX1-1FyNTYeoViPNPuFC4J4dhrFLKk0XOKBj
So things are getting more dire for him now
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The US intelligence pointed to a 50% chance that Putin would use tactical nukes if Ukrainian forces surrounded 30,000 Russian troops in the southern city of Kherson, the book says. Just months before, in the far northeast, Ukrainian troops had stunned the Russians by recapturing Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-largest city, and were pivoting to liberate Kherson, strategically located on the Dnieper River not far from the Black Sea.
National security adviser Jake Sullivan stared "with dread" at the intelligence assessment − described as coming from the best sources and methods − in late September 2022, seven months after Russia's invasion, the book says. It caused alarm across the Biden administration, moving the chance of Russia using nukes up from 5% to 10% to now 50%.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/10/09/woodward-book-reveals-us-scrambled-to-urge-putin-not-to-use-nuclear-weapons-in-ukraine_6728668_4.html?srsltid=AfmBOordqcKTcDh_FUOfcX1-1FyNTYeoViPNPuFC4J4dhrFLKk0XOKBj
So things are getting more dire for him now
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They might, Putin is a Russian version of T-rump with more power...T-rump loves and emulates the dictator...
wcmagumba
Jul 6
#1
Given the state of Russia's stockpiles in general, even in the unlikely event Putin made such a suicidal decision,
Emrys
Jul 6
#37
Trump would likely take it as a licence to nuke Iran. Essentially it would break the nuclear taboo and
Crunchy Frog
Jul 7
#45
Just wanted to point out that Ukraine never "recaptured" the city of Kharkiv because the russians
Crunchy Frog
Jul 7
#42
Sullivan was out of his depth, and was a significant factor in Biden and the allies' timidity and over-caution
Emrys
Jul 7
#46
They also believed that Kyiv would fall in 3 days, the entire country within a few weeks,
Crunchy Frog
Jul 7
#43
You make a great point, especially when you consider that Russia's military, who will already be pushing back.....
FadedMullet
Jul 6
#28
OK, I'll play your silly game. Nuking Kiev "would not affect the whole country"? Really? Based on what exactly?
FadedMullet
Jul 6
#30
I think you intended to get attention, as so often. But you don't seem to like it when you get it.
Emrys
Jul 6
#36
I thought you were all about her husband now. And no, this thread isn't about nukes. As ever, it's all about YOU.
Emrys
Jul 7
#57
Sammy the Contrarian - way too many posts here. Try to live with different opinions. And chill.
FadedMullet
Jul 7
#41
But you don't answer questions when asked. So you select what you want to "discuss".
GP6971
Jul 7
#62