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-misanthroptimist

(2,099 posts)
18. You're talking about a specific case
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 05:29 PM
23 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jul 6, 2026, 06:10 PM - Edit history (1)

I am talking in general when I say that accusations require verifiable evidence.

Now, read this next part with the understanding that I in no way, shape, or form believe what I'm writing happened. I'm merely pointing out possibilities.

To answer your questions:

1. She could conceivably have lied because she was angry at Platner for some reason.

2. She could be not lying but misconstruing what happened for some reason or other. Maybe she exaggerated, maybe she was under the influence, maybe she conflated a dream with reality. Who knows?

Again, I do not believe either of those things. But both are possible based on what we know at present.

In general, I am not prepared to convict a man until there is sufficient evidence. If the accusation becomes the conviction none of us are safe.

In this case, I gotta wonder why a guy who has raped someone would run for public office? He's gotta know that it's going to come out. (Yes, there are possible explanations for that, too. But it's one of those things that baffle me.)

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Nonsense bucolic_frolic Yesterday #1
* Only if they're Republicans. BannonsLiver Yesterday #7
You got me bucolic_frolic 23 hrs ago #45
Hopefully, providing that there is some verifiable evidence... -misanthroptimist Yesterday #2
Oh puh-leeze... milestogo Yesterday #3
Quantity isn't quality -misanthroptimist Yesterday #4
And if this were happening to men instead of women we wouldn't even be having this discussion. milestogo Yesterday #5
You're saying no evidence is required from women making this claim? live love laugh Yesterday #12
I neither trust nor believe men or women based on their gender -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #19
Throughout history men have been easily believed milestogo 1 hr ago #153
Well, you let me know if that happens here, will you? -misanthroptimist 40 min ago #158
It happens here on DU every day. milestogo 14 min ago #163
No one said anything about witnesses or cameras -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #23
To prove something in a court of law you need evidence. milestogo 23 hrs ago #26
I agree it can be difficult to prove -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #31
And FYI- attempted rapes are usually not prosecuted. milestogo 22 hrs ago #51
I know. -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #60
My daughter went to the hospital Lifeafter70 20 hrs ago #82
I'm so sorry for what your daughter went through mcar 20 hrs ago #85
The authorities were upset with her because she couldn't do it. Lifeafter70 20 hrs ago #88
First, my heart goes out to your daughter -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #86
This happened at work Lifeafter70 20 hrs ago #90
actually they are North Coast Lawyer 1 hr ago #149
For every 1000 sexual assaults milestogo 34 min ago #161
Believe no one. North Coast Lawyer 1 hr ago #150
There is evidence. SamuelAdams Yesterday #10
Do you a link for that or a source article on those emails, I can't find one. Thanks. nt blue_jay Yesterday #15
The politico article that started today's avalanche of calls to resign Ms. Toad 14 hrs ago #109
Thanks blue_jay 2 hrs ago #143
You're talking about a specific case -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #18
Yes wern't most of the first batch of accusations, IbogaProject 23 hrs ago #25
No idea -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #28
No obamanut2012 23 hrs ago #30
No. Try again mcar 20 hrs ago #80
Wow. MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #37
You can let go of the pearls -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #38
Oh, really? MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #94
What things seem to you is of no consequence to anyone but you -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #96
She could be cashing a nice, Republican check. Ever thought about that? paleotn 23 hrs ago #43
Prove it. MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #92
We could say the same of the accusations, prove it questionseverything 36 min ago #160
He has not been convicted but there is sufficient evidence and doubt about his story that Wonder Why 19 hrs ago #100
The matter at hand is not convicting a man whopis01 3 hrs ago #136
It's a fair and reasonable POV -misanthroptimist 3 hrs ago #137
The system and timing left them out, not me. whopis01 3 hrs ago #138
That happens -misanthroptimist 3 hrs ago #139
I strongly suggest that you acquaint yourself with the actual statistics niyad 22 hrs ago #57
You should indeed be shaking your head -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #62
Yet, by your statements, every woman who makes a report is niyad 21 hrs ago #65
Nonsense -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #70
You have made yourself perfectly clear. niyad 21 hrs ago #71
Good -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #73
As I said, perfectly clear. niyad 21 hrs ago #74
And you got in the last word -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #75
I truly hope that there are no women iin your life who would hope for niyad 5 hrs ago #128
So dramatic! -misanthroptimist 2 hrs ago #146
Dramatic? wow, sounds like I touched a nerve there. niyad 19 min ago #162
They sure have. SMDH mcar 20 hrs ago #83
Crystal. MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #95
The woman's testimony is evidence iemanja 5 hrs ago #133
She has messages to a woman mentioning it from dsc 21 hrs ago #66
Glad you asked -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #68
We, and they, have had this woman's name for a month dsc 21 hrs ago #69
Great. -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #72
I hear, but there are often no witnesses, believe me, I know. Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #112
That's what makes it difficult -misanthroptimist 9 hrs ago #113
Mike Tyson's rape case also had no hard evidence Polybius 7 hrs ago #117
Obviously, there was MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #140
You tell me. Exactly how many? -misanthroptimist 23 hrs ago #39
I think it depends on the man. milestogo 23 hrs ago #46
And therein lies a problem -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #64
"the same accusation made by multiple people" milestogo 20 hrs ago #79
Too Much Deference to Platner Starbeach 22 hrs ago #50
He is apparently receiving around 4k/month VA disability. But, as I niyad 20 hrs ago #87
You mean people associated with republicans ? Or just any old body? BComplex 6 hrs ago #121
What's that supposed to prove? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #141
Politico (who broke the story) said that they reviewed documents. lapucelle 23 hrs ago #29
Her account of the episode. lapucelle 23 hrs ago #35
But some here need way more details mcar 20 hrs ago #84
I hear you. MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #103
Thanks mcar 19 hrs ago #104
I'm sorry, I find the whole story a bit unbelievable. infullview 6 hrs ago #120
"this woman could be mentally ill" milestogo 6 hrs ago #122
It happens. I had a woman stalker. infullview 6 hrs ago #123
And did she publicly accuse you of rape? milestogo 5 hrs ago #130
No, Fortunately, but it was scary. infullview 5 hrs ago #131
It was scary??? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #144
Pretty amazing default response. lapucelle 5 hrs ago #129
The operative word there was "allegedly" infullview 3 hrs ago #134
Nah, the operative words are "snuck into her house and assaulted her". lapucelle 3 hrs ago #135
Careful there. That might cause potential Republican propaganda not to work. paleotn 23 hrs ago #42
MAGA feel the same exact way about their pervert in chief. Raftergirl 20 hrs ago #89
Words in frustration. My original post. paleotn 20 hrs ago #91
Nope. I may not always love a candidate, but I would never vote for a rapist. That is not something one Raftergirl 19 hrs ago #97
I agree, that is beyond the pale. paleotn 19 hrs ago #102
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Raftergirl 19 hrs ago #105
Apparently there are emails between her and her therapist synni 21 hrs ago #63
"If this can be believed" -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #67
This guy MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #98
Agreed on all counts. :) -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #99
I'm so sick of it PatSeg Yesterday #6
Apparently. milestogo Yesterday #8
Yes and that is why campaigns usually PatSeg Yesterday #13
Maybe he didn't think anything he did was wrong MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #14
I was working for a candidate and a story came out milestogo 23 hrs ago #20
Yes and that's actually worse PatSeg 22 hrs ago #55
or run as a repuke Skittles 23 hrs ago #33
Men who do this believe that most men do this, and Maru Kitteh 23 hrs ago #40
Probably true PatSeg 22 hrs ago #58
The gentleman had some questionable behavior in the past Keepthesoulalive 23 hrs ago #21
he's a straight white man Skittles 23 hrs ago #34
I'm seeing some posts implying if republicans vote for scum Keepthesoulalive 23 hrs ago #41
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Yesterday #9
The stuff is hitting the fan. Jacson6 Yesterday #11
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Raftergirl 23 hrs ago #16
THANK YOU Skittles 23 hrs ago #17
Or they can switch to the GOP and get elected to the highest offices, i.e. president, SCOTUS. Katinfl 23 hrs ago #22
yup Skittles 23 hrs ago #36
This can cure the problem. twodogsbarking 23 hrs ago #24
Thank You! Innocent Smith 23 hrs ago #27
+1000! mcar 23 hrs ago #32
Susan Collins sends her thanks! She doesn't know what she'd do without Dems doing her work for her. paleotn 23 hrs ago #44
Aww, bless your heart mcar 19 hrs ago #93
First off, he's not my guy. paleotn 19 hrs ago #101
On the slightest pretext? Credible accusation of rape, mcar 7 hrs ago #118
It's sickening. MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #52
x 1000 RockCreek 20 hrs ago #78
Apparently "Believe all women" was just a soundbite MichMan 20 hrs ago #76
The Maine Democratic Party calls on Graham Planter to drop out of the Senate race. LetMyPeopleVote 22 hrs ago #47
My aunt was nearly murdered by her wacko husband Just_Vote_Dem 22 hrs ago #48
So another 6 years of Collins? The Supreme Court appointments she supported did more damage to 3Hotdogs 22 hrs ago #49
Purge the scumbags. Dave Bowman 22 hrs ago #53
Perfect is the enemy of good. Bobstandard 22 hrs ago #54
This is EXACTLY why I felt he should have been dropped the first time. jmbar2 22 hrs ago #56
This bad publicity impacts on all Democrat candidates. That is why he should go, not the assumption of guilt, but we Doodley 21 hrs ago #59
Winning at any cost warmfeet 21 hrs ago #61
Doesn't seem to matter to Republican pedophiles and their President. live love laugh 17 hrs ago #107
Guess the tent is bigger than I imagined. WinningAgain 20 hrs ago #77
100x WarGamer 20 hrs ago #81
Kick red dog 1 17 hrs ago #106
+1000 applegrove 16 hrs ago #108
I don't think Platner assaulted anyone f64PTjmtR 12 hrs ago #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove 11 hrs ago #111
Why? mcar 7 hrs ago #119
So, you are saying all the evidence, actual evidence is false? obamanut2012 5 hrs ago #124
I'm amazed that when a Democrat leads, things like this come out. AZLD4Candidate 9 hrs ago #114
Why are you amazed that a walking red flag with prior accusations is rapey? obamanut2012 5 hrs ago #125
And fuck the rape apologists. n/t demmiblue 8 hrs ago #115
No kidding. When did we start supporting SA abusers, to get votes. WinningAgain 8 hrs ago #116
I may leave DU over this obamanut2012 5 hrs ago #126
Understandable. niyad 5 hrs ago #127
I can see you're going through it Sympthsical 5 hrs ago #132
Thank you obamanut2012 1 hr ago #151
I know, I'm so sorry MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #145
How to say you're a corporate Dem w/o saying you're a corporate Dem MakeThemCry 2 hrs ago #142
Zero credible rape accusations against Clinton -- HEY MIRT obamanut2012 1 hr ago #152
So I guess we should all agree that Hearn was guilty of tearing up the Reflecting pool. Bengus81 1 hr ago #147
Wow -- calling two liars is certainly a stance to take, and your minimizing rape is a worse look obamanut2012 1 hr ago #154
The woman worked for Susan Collins. This makes me worry this might be another Al Franken type situation. With diane in sf 1 hr ago #148
Wait the latest accuser worked for Collins? BannonsLiver 1 hr ago #155
"Conservative Democrats" MorbidButterflyTat 39 min ago #159
How he thought he could get away with his past in Klarkashton 56 min ago #156
White male privilege and arrogance. milestogo 52 min ago #157
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