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67. "If this can be believed"

Mon Jul 6, 2026, 07:59 PM

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He flat out denies it. She has provided some evidence that is insufficient on its own, but certainly bears further investigation.

It is possible that both are telling the truth from their own perspectives.

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Good riddance to men who sexually assault women. [View all] milestogo Monday OP

Nonsense bucolic_frolic Monday #1

* Only if they're Republicans. BannonsLiver Monday #7

You got me bucolic_frolic Monday #45

Hopefully, providing that there is some verifiable evidence... -misanthroptimist Monday #2

Oh puh-leeze... milestogo Monday #3

Quantity isn't quality -misanthroptimist Monday #4

And if this were happening to men instead of women we wouldn't even be having this discussion. milestogo Monday #5

You're saying no evidence is required from women making this claim? live love laugh Monday #12

I neither trust nor believe men or women based on their gender -misanthroptimist Monday #19

Throughout history men have been easily believed milestogo 20 hrs ago #153

Well, you let me know if that happens here, will you? -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #158

It happens here on DU every day. milestogo 19 hrs ago #163

Then why put up with it? -misanthroptimist 19 hrs ago #165

I make liberal use of the 'ignore' tool. milestogo 18 hrs ago #166

I wonder if I can copyright my DNA? lol -misanthroptimist 15 hrs ago #172

Got your head in the sand, eh? It's okay if it's a Republican, but we need proof for a Dem? mucholderthandirt 3 hrs ago #194

No one said anything about witnesses or cameras -misanthroptimist Monday #23

To prove something in a court of law you need evidence. milestogo Monday #26

I agree it can be difficult to prove -misanthroptimist Monday #31

And FYI- attempted rapes are usually not prosecuted. milestogo Monday #51

I know. -misanthroptimist Monday #60

My daughter went to the hospital Lifeafter70 Monday #82

I'm so sorry for what your daughter went through mcar Monday #85

The authorities were upset with her because she couldn't do it. Lifeafter70 Monday #88

First, my heart goes out to your daughter -misanthroptimist Monday #86

This happened at work Lifeafter70 Monday #90

actually they are North Coast Lawyer 20 hrs ago #149

For every 1000 sexual assaults milestogo 19 hrs ago #161

Believe no one. North Coast Lawyer 20 hrs ago #150

Did she go to a hospital and claim rape and there are the results of the rape kit as evidence? CozyMystery 19 hrs ago #164

There is evidence. SamuelAdams Monday #10

Do you a link for that or a source article on those emails, I can't find one. Thanks. nt blue_jay Monday #15

The politico article that started today's avalanche of calls to resign Ms. Toad Yesterday #109

Thanks blue_jay 21 hrs ago #143

You're talking about a specific case -misanthroptimist Monday #18

Yes wern't most of the first batch of accusations, IbogaProject Monday #25

No idea -misanthroptimist Monday #28

No obamanut2012 Monday #30

No. Try again mcar Monday #80

Wow. MorbidButterflyTat Monday #37

You can let go of the pearls -misanthroptimist Monday #38

Oh, really? MorbidButterflyTat Monday #94

What things seem to you is of no consequence to anyone but you -misanthroptimist Monday #96

She could be cashing a nice, Republican check. Ever thought about that? paleotn Monday #43

Prove it. MorbidButterflyTat Monday #92

We could say the same of the accusations, prove it questionseverything 19 hrs ago #160

That's all the rape apologists have been saying MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #170

He has not been convicted but there is sufficient evidence and doubt about his story that Wonder Why Monday #100

The matter at hand is not convicting a man whopis01 22 hrs ago #136

It's a fair and reasonable POV -misanthroptimist 22 hrs ago #137

The system and timing left them out, not me. whopis01 22 hrs ago #138

That happens -misanthroptimist 22 hrs ago #139

I'll make a prediction about this whopis01 15 hrs ago #173

Yeah, I remember when [Redacted]'s... -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #178

You are missing a glaringly obvious fact whopis01 14 hrs ago #179

You are missing an even more obvious and glaring fact -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #180

You certainly have lost me at this point whopis01 13 hrs ago #183

What I'm saying is the enough independents -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #185

You'd stay in the race with no money, no staff, no campaign volunteers, no endorsements, no support Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #181

Yes, I would -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #182

The goal is to elect a Democrat, not Susan Collins Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #184

Exactly -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #186

That won't happen if Planter refuses to drop out. Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #187

Who is this magical candidate that is going to do better -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #188

I don't know but it's not him. Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #189

I strongly suggest that you acquaint yourself with the actual statistics niyad Monday #57

You should indeed be shaking your head -misanthroptimist Monday #62

Yet, by your statements, every woman who makes a report is niyad Monday #65

Nonsense -misanthroptimist Monday #70

You have made yourself perfectly clear. niyad Monday #71

Good -misanthroptimist Monday #73

As I said, perfectly clear. niyad Monday #74

And you got in the last word -misanthroptimist Monday #75

I truly hope that there are no women iin your life who would hope for niyad Yesterday #128

So dramatic! -misanthroptimist 21 hrs ago #146

Dramatic? wow, sounds like I touched a nerve there. niyad 19 hrs ago #162

Well, you changed the topic from Platner to me -misanthroptimist 18 hrs ago #167

They sure have. SMDH mcar Monday #83

Crystal. MorbidButterflyTat Monday #95

The woman's testimony is evidence iemanja Yesterday #133

She has messages to a woman mentioning it from dsc Monday #66

Glad you asked -misanthroptimist Monday #68

We, and they, have had this woman's name for a month dsc Monday #69

Great. -misanthroptimist Monday #72

I hear, but there are often no witnesses, believe me, I know. Joinfortmill Yesterday #112

That's what makes it difficult -misanthroptimist Yesterday #113

Mike Tyson's rape case also had no hard evidence Polybius Yesterday #117

Obviously, there was MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #140

Conviction doesn't always mean proof Polybius 15 hrs ago #175

What?? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #176

That's not what I said Polybius 14 hrs ago #177

Oh, yeah? MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #190

Ouch! Polybius 2 hrs ago #195

You tell me. Exactly how many? -misanthroptimist Monday #39

I think it depends on the man. milestogo Monday #46

And therein lies a problem -misanthroptimist Monday #64

"the same accusation made by multiple people" milestogo Monday #79

Too Much Deference to Platner Starbeach Monday #50

He is apparently receiving around 4k/month VA disability. But, as I niyad Monday #87

You mean people associated with republicans ? Or just any old body? BComplex Yesterday #121

What's that supposed to prove? MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #141

Yes, it came out that the first accuser was a republican who worked on the Susan BComplex 19 min ago #196

Politico (who broke the story) said that they reviewed documents. lapucelle Monday #29

Her account of the episode. lapucelle Monday #35

But some here need way more details mcar Monday #84

I hear you. MorbidButterflyTat Monday #103

Thanks mcar Monday #104

I'm sorry, I find the whole story a bit unbelievable. infullview Yesterday #120

"this woman could be mentally ill" milestogo Yesterday #122

It happens. I had a woman stalker. infullview Yesterday #123

And did she publicly accuse you of rape? milestogo Yesterday #130

No, Fortunately, but it was scary. infullview Yesterday #131

It was scary??? MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #144

Pretty amazing default response. lapucelle Yesterday #129

The operative word there was "allegedly" infullview 22 hrs ago #134

Nah, the operative words are "snuck into her house and assaulted her". lapucelle 22 hrs ago #135

Careful there. That might cause potential Republican propaganda not to work. paleotn Monday #42

MAGA feel the same exact way about their pervert in chief. Raftergirl Monday #89

Words in frustration. My original post. paleotn Monday #91

Nope. I may not always love a candidate, but I would never vote for a rapist. That is not something one Raftergirl Monday #97

I agree, that is beyond the pale. paleotn Monday #102

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Raftergirl Monday #105

Apparently there are emails between her and her therapist synni Monday #63

"If this can be believed" -misanthroptimist Monday #67

This guy MorbidButterflyTat Monday #98

Agreed on all counts. :) -misanthroptimist Monday #99

I'm so sick of it PatSeg Monday #6

Apparently. milestogo Monday #8

Yes and that is why campaigns usually PatSeg Monday #13

Maybe he didn't think anything he did was wrong MorbidButterflyTat Monday #14

I was working for a candidate and a story came out milestogo Monday #20

Yes and that's actually worse PatSeg Monday #55

or run as a repuke Skittles Monday #33

Men who do this believe that most men do this, and Maru Kitteh Monday #40

Probably true PatSeg Monday #58

The gentleman had some questionable behavior in the past Keepthesoulalive Monday #21

he's a straight white man Skittles Monday #34

I'm seeing some posts implying if republicans vote for scum Keepthesoulalive Monday #41

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #9

The stuff is hitting the fan. Jacson6 Monday #11

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Raftergirl Monday #16

THANK YOU Skittles Monday #17

Or they can switch to the GOP and get elected to the highest offices, i.e. president, SCOTUS. Katinfl Monday #22

yup Skittles Monday #36

This can cure the problem. twodogsbarking Monday #24

Thank You! Innocent Smith Monday #27

+1000! mcar Monday #32

Susan Collins sends her thanks! She doesn't know what she'd do without Dems doing her work for her. paleotn Monday #44

Aww, bless your heart mcar Monday #93

First off, he's not my guy. paleotn Monday #101

On the slightest pretext? Credible accusation of rape, mcar Yesterday #118

People always forget to add "...and worked for Blackwater in Afghanistan"....after he got out of the military EX500rider 18 hrs ago #168

The list is that long. Why was it all ignored? mcar 17 hrs ago #169

It's sickening. MorbidButterflyTat Monday #52

x 1000 RockCreek Monday #78

Apparently "Believe all women" was just a soundbite MichMan Monday #76

The Maine Democratic Party calls on Graham Planter to drop out of the Senate race. LetMyPeopleVote Monday #47

My aunt was nearly murdered by her wacko husband Just_Vote_Dem Monday #48

So another 6 years of Collins? The Supreme Court appointments she supported did more damage to 3Hotdogs Monday #49

Yep, 6 more years of Collins, 6 more years of repub majorities questionseverything 17 hrs ago #171

Purge the scumbags. Dave Bowman Monday #53

Perfect is the enemy of good. Bobstandard Monday #54

This is EXACTLY why I felt he should have been dropped the first time. jmbar2 Monday #56

This bad publicity impacts on all Democrat candidates. That is why he should go, not the assumption of guilt, but we Doodley Monday #59

Winning at any cost warmfeet Monday #61

Doesn't seem to matter to Republican pedophiles and their President. live love laugh Monday #107

Guess the tent is bigger than I imagined. WinningAgain Monday #77

100x WarGamer Monday #81

Kick red dog 1 Monday #106

+1000 applegrove Yesterday #108

I don't think Platner assaulted anyone f64PTjmtR Yesterday #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Yesterday #111

Why? mcar Yesterday #119

So, you are saying all the evidence, actual evidence is false? obamanut2012 Yesterday #124

I'm amazed that when a Democrat leads, things like this come out. AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #114

Why are you amazed that a walking red flag with prior accusations is rapey? obamanut2012 Yesterday #125

And fuck the rape apologists. n/t demmiblue Yesterday #115

No kidding. When did we start supporting SA abusers, to get votes. WinningAgain Yesterday #116

I may leave DU over this obamanut2012 Yesterday #126

Understandable. niyad Yesterday #127

I can see you're going through it Sympthsical Yesterday #132

Thank you obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #151

I know, I'm so sorry MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #145

How to say you're a corporate Dem w/o saying you're a corporate Dem MakeThemCry 21 hrs ago #142

Zero credible rape accusations against Clinton -- HEY MIRT obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist 12 hrs ago #191

So I guess we should all agree that Hearn was guilty of tearing up the Reflecting pool. Bengus81 20 hrs ago #147

Wow -- calling two liars is certainly a stance to take, and your minimizing rape is a worse look obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #154

The woman worked for Susan Collins. This makes me worry this might be another Al Franken type situation. With diane in sf 20 hrs ago #148

Wait the latest accuser worked for Collins? BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #155

No. LisaL 15 hrs ago #174

"Conservative Democrats" MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #159

How he thought he could get away with his past in Klarkashton 19 hrs ago #156

White male privilege and arrogance. milestogo 19 hrs ago #157

I think he's staying in MerryBlooms 11 hrs ago #192

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