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FHRRK1

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33. Had very little interaction with IBM

Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:30 PM

Jul 8

Sun and HP hardware, Oracle, SAP, Workday, salesforce, Peoplesoft in software.

Can imagine any company that had a practice within a large consulting firm may go down the sleaze path.

But damn, the shit I saw Oracle pull was legalized fraud.

Had a company that spent 1 million on Oracle licenses at list price based on promises of millions in business. A year later the company asked me to review the contract. Black and white, you paid list price. Standard discount was 60 percent plus! No mention of any of the promises in the contract. Best part was Oracle fired the Rep and Regional Mgr who made the promises and slashed pricing. So the company could either pay 220k for required maintenance fees, buy the software they actually needed for 240k and then drop to 50k fees for future years, or just walk. In this case Oracle was not needed to run the business so they just walked and ate a 1 million dollar loss.

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Execs Confused and Horrified by the Huge AI Bills After Thinking They Could Replace Workers for Free [View all] WhiteTara Jul 8 OP

One of them's born every minute struggle4progress Jul 8 #1

I was going to post "suckers" DBoon Jul 8 #2

The word I call CEOs rhymes with suckers Jerry2144 Jul 8 #7

Suckers and losers? Coventina Jul 8 #8

See my post below FHRRK1 Jul 8 #10

Consulting firms... lonely bird Jul 8 #11

Don't forget the bribes that were paid by the hardware and software vendors. erronis Jul 8 #16

Wait, you mean the salesmen proved to be an unreliable source of information ?? eppur_se_muova Jul 8 #3

sorry all I can do is... sheshe2 Jul 8 #4

Long standing practice in IT and Software FHRRK1 Jul 8 #5

No love for IBM? I do agree that Ellison took (takes) sleaze to the highest level. erronis Jul 8 #17

Had very little interaction with IBM FHRRK1 Jul 8 #33

You bring up another horrible point about these companies. Stiffing the sales people that land the contracts. erronis Jul 8 #35

6- 11 trillion dollars SamuelTheThird Jul 8 #6

And taxpayers will end up bailing them out once again. OGBuzz Jul 8 #13

Now they have to hire back all the workers who were previously fired FakeNoose Jul 8 #9

You don't get to be a corporate executive by rationally thinking through the problem. Aristus Jul 8 #12

There was a chief executive at GE years ago named Jack Welch. Dr. T Jul 8 #14

As a former IT worker, slightlv Jul 8 #15

I worked decades in mainframe Skittles Jul 8 #23

Still being predicted. Even while mainframes continue to process 3_Limes Jul 8 #25

Same here. Back in my day they would make their sales pitch and get a contract, usually with upper managers... the nelm Jul 8 #31

The big AI players have figured out that its usage not effiency paulrevere2018 Jul 8 #18

Smartest guys in the room on their way to creating yet another gargantuan crisis. NoMoreRepugs Jul 8 #19

Send ICE to detain those execs for stealing our jobs IronLionZion Jul 8 #20

Gen-X will be charging 2x our salaries when we come back as independent consultants. OC375 Jul 8 #21

Reminds me of the early days at AOL, paying per minute and getting huge bills... LOL... n/t TygrBright Jul 8 #22

This is the exact reason voters shouldn't put business people in govt positions --- because business people in2herbs Jul 8 #24

These shit-for-brains are the same execs who insist their pay/compensation is merit based. RockRaven Jul 8 #26

Thanks for all the knowledgeable comments. yellow dahlia Jul 8 #27

I agree! WhiteTara Jul 8 #34

Keep the workers. Fire the executives. Ditch the AI. NBachers Jul 8 #28

But they're okay with their bills from Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure? ChicagoTeamster Jul 8 #29

With AWS or Azure you should know what you're paying for - measurable usage of resources erronis Jul 8 #36

Almost like corporate executives are--in fact--overly simplistic morons, and don't deserve the worship they've grown Karasu Jul 8 #30

Not so fast. This article is very incomplete. HeartachesNhangovers Jul 8 #32

Maybe if government and business supported higher education with no_hypocrisy Jul 9 #37