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Cirsium

(4,330 posts)
55. Often true
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:42 PM
Thursday

That is often true. It does not only happen to one wing of the party. Also, it is not that "he said what they wanted to hear." He talked policy that they support and agree with. That is legitimate, though Platner is not. You insult and demean his supporters with your statement.

Manchin was, in my view, a bad candidate from the beginning and people ignored that because "it's the best we can do in that state." I think that is similar.

Platner is a really odd case. His team, outsiders who strike me as very strange, capitalized on voter frustrations and "anti-establishment" sentiment in a cynical and manipulative way. They recruited a guy who looked the part and crafted a phony "working class hero" narrative around him.

Platner's oyster business was bought for him by his mother. His only customer was his mother's restaurant. He was supposedly against the wars, but then re-upped. Then he went to work for Blackwater. He was sexting multiple women after he was married. He made racist and sexist posts over the years. He had a Totenkopf tattoo.

I didn't find Platner's explanations for any of that very persuasive. I think that anyone who didn't understand that those issues would come up is not ready to be a US Senator. I found the explanations by his team to be abhorrent and disgusting. I was not impressed by his wife's defense of him, and thought that was a weak and amateurish move to have her defend him.

That said, I didn't find the Politico reporter who was interviewed on Morning Joe to be at all credible. Also, the woman who accused him of rape did not seem credible to me nor to my wife, either.

The whole disgusting episode is a nightmare and a threat to the success of the party at the worst possible time. I would encourage people to refrain from throwing fuel the fire and to refrain from using this to attack an entire wing of the party.

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Allegations sink Democrats [View all] luv2fly Wednesday OP
Republicans know this, they use it against Democrats. sop Wednesday #1
Right on! Every F'ing time -- when there's a (D), (R)s clutch their pearls and squawk to deafen Tim S Wednesday #9
The old Karl Rove playbook - turn the Democrats' strength into a weakness dalton99a Wednesday #13
Fuck Platner. demmiblue Wednesday #2
That says more about the rot in the Republican Party RandySF Wednesday #3
There is a lot of hypocrisy within the party if it is candidate they like AZProgressive Wednesday #6
What Franken did was tacky but not worthy of resignation RandySF Wednesday #8
Often true Cirsium Thursday #55
Same could be said for Swalwell angrychair Thursday #73
I don't think so........... Lovie777 Wednesday #4
Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami in November Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #5
... demmiblue Wednesday #7
Nothing except apathy which has now grown within me too Tim S Wednesday #10
Republicans see their grip on Senate tighten amid Democrats' dysfunction in Maine dalton99a Wednesday #11
NOPE MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #27
Fortunately most of us aren't willing to lower our standards that much EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #12
That moral highhorse may not work on people revolted by far greater moral transgressions AloeVera Wednesday #21
So how many rapes does a candidate get a free pass on? Llewlladdwr Wednesday #31
Read the post I was replying to again. AloeVera Thursday #36
It's not the quantity; it's the identity of the alleged victim Shrek Thursday #37
Facts don't seem relevant in this sub-thread. AloeVera Thursday #39
That is the attitude that gave us Trump sarisataka Wednesday #32
Pls show me a correlation between havig morals, values and stopping the Gaza genocide. AloeVera Thursday #41
Do you disagree that electing Harris sarisataka Thursday #45
Of course not, but that's besides the point I am making here. AloeVera Thursday #46
Here is the connection sarisataka Thursday #47
Entirely false equivalence. AloeVera Thursday #48
"Pledging to continue funding a genocidal state is not an "imperfection". sarisataka Thursday #50
Moving goalposts but ok. AloeVera Thursday #59
That is rewriting reality sarisataka Thursday #60
We can agree to disagree. AloeVera Thursday #61
The con wanted to kick all the Palestinians out and turn Gaza into a vacationland for millionaires. Quiet Em Thursday #63
He didn't reveal that until AFTER the election. AloeVera Thursday #64
March - 2024, seven plus months before the election Quiet Em Thursday #66
Do you really think that is proof of your assertion? AloeVera Thursday #67
It should have been clear to everyone that the con had zero interest in Palestinians lives Quiet Em Thursday #68
This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Thursday #70
I know... AloeVera Thursday #72
Is it easier to blame the fraction of Dems who voted for Trump because of Gaza... AloeVera Thursday #65
Whomever voted for Biden sarisataka Thursday #74
The best way to stop a genocide Boo1 Wednesday #33
If he labels himself a progressive? MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #35
Not what I said. AloeVera Thursday #38
I guess we should elect people just like Republicans sarisataka Wednesday #14
Sadly, relayerbob Wednesday #15
The answer is not to throw our own principles out the window just because they get away with being shit humans. FascismIsDeath Wednesday #16
No compromising. Never surrender your morality and... littlemissmartypants Wednesday #17
The Totenkopf was a dealbreaker for me hardluck Wednesday #18
I thought it ruined his chances. Yet a few months later, he's ahead. Go figure. LeftInTX Wednesday #26
Republicans love rapists. Democrats hate them. Does that explain it for you? tritsofme Wednesday #19
What Republicans love is Democrats falling on their own sword. AloeVera Wednesday #23
The timing could have been much much worse. A few days longer and we would have been stuck with a rapist on the ballot. tritsofme Wednesday #28
There is no path forward for any Democrat ACCUSED of rape. AloeVera Thursday #43
He didn't fall on his own sword Boo1 Wednesday #34
Not Platner. Democrats. N/T AloeVera Thursday #42
"Not Platner. Democrats." Jedi Guy Thursday #49
Falling on one's sword means a noble act of sacrifice and honour. AloeVera Thursday #58
Ah, not quite the correct metaphor, I'm afraid. Jedi Guy Thursday #62
So who will replace Platner? flamingdem Wednesday #20
As I understand it, they will call a convention and select spooky3 Wednesday #22
Great. Party insiders will triangulate and nominate someone. Meanwhile, when this happens, we lose AZLD4Candidate Wednesday #24
Watch tonights LD show. sheshe2 Wednesday #25
Great minds! MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #30
Watch Lawrence O'Donnell's segment tonight with Devon Murphy-Anderson MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #29
Don't forget Jeffrey Epstein. Kid Berwyn Thursday #40
The standard we're talking about isn't difficult for any adult to meet: Torchlight Thursday #44
Are you suggesting that we, as a party, should lower our standards? ⁉️ QueerDuck Thursday #51
I loved what Platner was saying NeoTrajan Thursday #52
Thing is, we want to be better than Republicans. So there ya go. ColoringFool Thursday #53
What are you suggesting should change? Quiet Em Thursday #54
Bull shit. wnylib Thursday #56
Wilhoit's Law usonian Thursday #57
This is all on Graham Planter, and those Cha Thursday #69
💙 luv you Bernie DoBW Thursday #71
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