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20. Have you ever heard the slogan "no taxation without representation"?

Sat Jun 7, 2025, 11:16 AM

Jun 2025

It's from the American Revolution. It means, if we do not have fair representation, then we should not be expected to pay taxes.

The outrage is a state with 40 million people having no more representation than a state with less than 1 million people. In protest, just pay the same amount of taxes as that little state (i.e. essentially no tax).

I was responding to a post about Gov. Newsome suggesting Californians not pay tax, to protest Trump's actions. But never mind.

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Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as Trump threatens California [View all] highplainsdem Jun 2025 OP

I'm starting to think secession shouldn't be off table. Of course, would have to move from my rube red state. Silent Type Jun 2025 #1

Trump is trying to start a civil war it looks like. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #26

Aren't those taxes paid by individual taxpayers to the US Treasury? MichMan Jun 2025 #2

Not all - there are federal excise taxes on alcoholic beverages for example DBoon Jun 2025 #3

and paying into the CA system (however that works?) stopdiggin Jun 2025 #8

There could be an escrow account for us Tumbulu Jun 2025 #4

which would disallow the federal gov from presenting me with the bill? stopdiggin Jun 2025 #7

In time, yes Tumbulu Jun 2025 #14

agree with about 90% stopdiggin Jun 2025 #17

About damned time! flying-skeleton Jun 2025 #5

"Maybe it's time to cut that off" could be a campaign slogan. PermatexNo.2 Jun 2025 #6

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2025 #22

Thanks. I'll try to behave. Or, failing that, at least try to use good grammar and punctuation. PermatexNo.2 Jun 2025 #34

great talking point! but as a practical matter ... stopdiggin Jun 2025 #9

California can make a case for "No taxation without Representation" thought crime Jun 2025 #10

That would mean that a Wyoming taxpayer would pay $66 dollars in income taxes for every $1 a California resident pays MichMan Jun 2025 #12

No, that would be Absurd. And Wyoming having the same level of representation as CA is just as Absurd. thought crime Jun 2025 #16

the point (fairly obviously) - is that 'no taxation without representation' stopdiggin Jun 2025 #18

Have you ever heard the slogan "no taxation without representation"? thought crime Jun 2025 #20

and my post pointed to the fact that your quote stopdiggin Jun 2025 #21

Happens all the time with city income taxes MichMan Jun 2025 #25

CA has a LOT more Reps in the House. The founders worked out a reasonable balance Attilatheblond Jun 2025 #28

It should have more Senators too, and some of the founders knew it. thought crime Jun 2025 #29

Ah, yes, tranny of the majority. Nope that isn't a good way to govern. Attilatheblond Jun 2025 #30

The Tyranny of the Majority is a problem. thought crime Jun 2025 #33

We have 2 legislative bodies. One by population and one where all states have two members Attilatheblond Jun 2025 #35

But they are represented. Igel Jun 2025 #24

Newsom's argument also falls flat if you take it down to a local level MichMan Jun 2025 #27

What would Gov Newsom's response be if for example Beverly Hills and Bel Air decided to withhold all their state taxes? MichMan Jun 2025 #11

So you support Taco cutting off services to California? Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #32

""Maybe it's time to cut that off," he added." Maybe just "redirect" the tax money to areas tfg cut? nt mitch96 Jun 2025 #13

Sounds like a plan! Fla Dem Jun 2025 #15

Yup, just maybe time, Newsom. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #19

I did not think he was speaking about income tax. quaint Jun 2025 #23

Seems like Rebl2 Jun 2025 #31

Do it orangecrush Jun 2025 #36