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dedl67

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47. One of the great 'fog of war' scenes is in Stendhal's "Charterhouse of Parma'
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:30 AM
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The novel's protagonist, Fabrizio, is a non-combatant, but is somehow wandering around in the middle of the Battle of Waterloo, trying unsuccessfully to figure out what the heck is going on. To me, the Battle of Waterloo doesn't seem very similar to the bombing of an outboard motorboat. Although, if I remember the scene correctly, Fabrizio was drunk part of the time, which may be the connection with Hegseth.

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Circling back to kill civilians floating in the water is MURDER, not fog of war. Irish_Dem Dec 2 #1
There is no F...king War. Not even a Congressional Resolution, but less a Congressional Declaration of War. hlthe2b Dec 2 #2
Exactly. There is NO WAR. We are looking at MURDER. Irish_Dem Dec 2 #12
Right?! What war? yardwork Dec 2 #20
Killing men just fishing on their boat is called murder. Irish_Dem Dec 2 #21
I Get The Impression RobinA Wednesday #49
Yes. He is the one in an alcohol ego fog. Irish_Dem Thursday #52
Kelly was right. This is all a big game to them. ananda Dec 2 #3
I missed the part where we declared war on Venezuela. Ray Bruns Dec 2 #4
More like the fog of too much booze.nt moniss Dec 2 #5
Lol, beat me to it! Blumancru Dec 2 #29
Drunk on Power 2na fisherman Dec 2 #43
Gee. If Robert McNamara could go stock free by writing a book about "Fog of War" erronis Dec 2 #6
Not defending Robert McNamara, but this is no comparison ... FakeNoose Dec 2 #24
There was the Tonkin Gulf Resolution of August 1964 RazorbackExpat Dec 2 #35
Just heard a replay of Pete's "fog of war" blather. He doesn't even know what allegorical oracle Dec 2 #25
You are right. From Pete's perspective, the fog is after the 4th or 5th shot of whiskey. erronis Dec 2 #28
What a fucking joke. chowder66 Dec 2 #7
Total fucking bullshit. He's a fucking liar and murderer. LymphocyteLover Dec 2 #8
Since when have we been at war? Did Congress declare war and I missed it?? Rhiannon12866 Dec 2 #9
A leader in his position... Mike Nelson Dec 2 #10
You would need the other side returning fire for it to be a fog of war. Baitball Blogger Dec 2 #11
The "fog of war"? Inf**kingcredible! patphil Dec 2 #13
"fog of war" my old soldier ass AverageOldGuy Dec 2 #14
You need to change your moniker. COL Mustard Dec 2 #41
"Fog of war" is how women describe the feeling after Hegseth has been near their drinks Prairie Gates Dec 2 #15
Kegsbreath lying again sakabatou Dec 2 #16
So Bradley will be giving a classified briefing on Thursday, Native Dec 2 #17
Is that what they're calling drunken stupor now? Buddyzbuddy Dec 2 #18
Just exactly how much chaos and uncertainty (fog) is there when no one is shooting back at you? LudwigPastorius Dec 2 #19
Fog of cosplaying. If he can't HANDLE a fisherman boat, what about a fleet of destroyers? WEAK!!! nt Exp Dec 2 #22
"Fog of War"? sheshe2 Dec 2 #23
He's full of shit Warpy Dec 2 #26
Hegseth is trying to throw Admiral Bradley under the bus. TomSlick Dec 2 #27
Fog of murder. Harker Dec 2 #30
Us folks that aren't handsome lethal warriors, call it being shit faced. Swede Dec 2 #31
Speaking of that, I just spotted this story - BumRushDaShow Dec 2 #32
That raccoon was framed. He was just the wingman. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2 #33
Oh my God, that's hilarious!!!! COL Mustard Dec 2 #40
Does he mean 'the fog of BEER'? I think he means the fog of beer.. Jack Valentino Dec 2 #34
The murderous jerk has gone to "the fog of war" defense. Lame. This ain't Vietnam dude. BradBo Dec 2 #36
'Fog of War' Aussie105 Dec 2 #37
Paging Admiral Bradley...your bus is waiting.... COL Mustard Dec 2 #38
More like enigmania Dec 2 #39
Hegseth loves terms like "fog of war", it makes him feel manly BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2 #42
The only fog is between his ears. Sneederbunk Dec 2 #44
What war? Was anybody shooting back? DFW Wednesday #45
Is everyone on Trump's team role playing? Aussie105 Wednesday #46
One of the great 'fog of war' scenes is in Stendhal's "Charterhouse of Parma' dedl67 Wednesday #47
Winners call it war. Losers are called terrorists. The law calls it murder or war crime JT45242 Wednesday #48
Maybe an "alcoholic fog"? Bastards, anyway you cut it! electric_blue68 Wednesday #50
War? liberal N proud Wednesday #51
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