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eppur_se_muova

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20. They insist on keeping their independence, and following their own customs and laws.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:33 PM
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Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2026, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)

Rulers like Saddam and the late Ayatollah Khameini only want unquestioning followers. Kurds are trapped between Iraq, Iran, and Turkey -- all wanting to control them and make them into compliant subjects of their Great Leaders. They didn't get much better treatment when these regions were controlled by imperial Great Powers, like Russia, the Ottomans, or France or GB. They never wanted to be absorbed into another culture.

After the Iraq War, it looked like the Kurds might finally get some of what they wanted. But then Erdogan turned hard-line Muslim Nationalist and refused to cooperate. When the Kurds were the most effective fighting force in the Middle East against the terrorist pseudo-state ISIS , Trmp pulled US aid out from under them, which cost the Kurds enormous numbers of casualties, many of them tortured to death.

Too bad they don't live next door to Canada.


ETA: One big difference between Kurds and their Muslim neighbors is their more liberal attitudes towards the roles of women. Kurdish fighting forces have large numbers of women soldiers, including commanding officers. Outside of Iran, Kurdish women do not normally cover their faces or even hair, and their traditional costume is less restrictive even for Muslim Kurds.

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I think ICE should join the fight. Irish_Dem Wednesday #1
That man's trying to break the entire world. tanyev Wednesday #2
The Kurds were abandoned in the past Aviation Pro Wednesday #3
Just my first thought... slightlv Wednesday #17
What about the Iraqi Government? GCG Thursday #27
Don't we always end up... skypilot Wednesday #4
A lot of countries do. "The Kurds have no friends but the mountains." nt eppur_se_muova Wednesday #15
But why though? Polybius Wednesday #19
They insist on keeping their independence, and following their own customs and laws. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #20
They would be fools. N/t S/V Loner Wednesday #5
Trump is totally winging it C_U_L8R Wednesday #6
Exactly modrepub Thursday #24
shithole gave the ok for Erodgan to commit genocide against the Kurds in Syria................ Lovie777 Wednesday #7
Hope they have sense enough to respond "Dude, you fucked us over thoroughly last time .... so, NO." nt eppur_se_muova Wednesday #8
Netanyatu's puppet wants to start an ethnic civil war to weaken and fracture Iran dalton99a Wednesday #9
They won't do it unless we promise them their own state. The Turks wouldn't like that. everyonematters Wednesday #10
Send Barron! nt City Lights Wednesday #11
dears kurds, in case u havent notice trump will stab u in the back and abandon you msongs Wednesday #12
My son has great respect for the Kurds PCB66 Wednesday #13
.... again. nt eppur_se_muova Wednesday #14
Trump previously abandoned our Kurdish allies in Syria. And, Turkey attacked the Iraqi Kurds. ChicagoTeamster Wednesday #16
What could possibly go wrong orangecrush Wednesday #18
The same Kurds he stabbed in the back his 1st term? Grins Wednesday #21
And what do the Turks have to say about this? AverageOldGuy Wednesday #22
Why should the Kurds believe a goddamned thing the U.S. says? LudwigPastorius Thursday #23
It's bullshit... 2naSalit Thursday #25
Like you, I'm hoping the Kurds can exploit this for whatever they can get out of it without risking any real ... eppur_se_muova Thursday #26
What would be funny GCG Thursday #28
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