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paleotn

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59. I don't know for sure and neither do you.

Mon Jul 6, 2026, 07:09 PM

18 hrs ago

Unless you've got some mystical pipeline to info no one but the accused and accuser has, it's all conjecture. And very helpful conjecture for Susan Collins AFTER the Dem primary. She made accusations prior. Why did she not come completely clean then? She had little reason not to. All I'm saying is stranger things have happened in politics. It would certainly be more than worth it for some if Republicans retained control of the Senate. Very, very much worth it.

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Exclusive: Woman who dated Graham Platner says he sexually assaulted her [View all] pat_k 22 hrs ago OP

Guess we'll be seeing a lot more of Susan Collins... Marie Marie 22 hrs ago #1

What's Janet Mills doing these days? Vinca 22 hrs ago #2

She said to write her in after the last set of obamanut2012 22 hrs ago #3

David Costello would be a better pick. pat_k 21 hrs ago #9

2024 and Kamala all over again. It's a bit too late for that now. paleotn 19 hrs ago #35

Hope your wrong. I think there's time. pat_k 18 hrs ago #58

--- especially since a whole lot of Maine voters are anxious to vote Democratic Jack Valentino 15 hrs ago #91

He seems very appealling and progressive enough MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #125

Being unelectable. Mainers aren't happy with her. paleotn 19 hrs ago #34

Way to go Maine! awesomerwb1 21 hrs ago #4

Excuse me... 2naSalit 21 hrs ago #10

My thought exactly. drray23 21 hrs ago #11

I grew up... 2naSalit 21 hrs ago #13

Hard same. I had a post removed for suggesting exactly this would happen. nt Blasphemer 21 hrs ago #14

This message was self-deleted by its author 2naSalit 21 hrs ago #17

Damn, 2na... COL Mustard 17 hrs ago #70

Just because people suggested this would happen doesn't make it true. nt CozyMystery 9 hrs ago #116

Wonder if this latest one got a big check. paleotn 19 hrs ago #36

Seriously? niyad 18 hrs ago #57

I don't know for sure and neither do you. paleotn 18 hrs ago #59

If Republicans were behind this radical noodle 5 hrs ago #129

I appreciate your posts and figure you're due some insight into my meaning. paleotn 17 hrs ago #67

I understand what you are saying. But, as a number of posts and OP's, niyad 17 hrs ago #71

I get it, but Republicans are extremely good at this... paleotn 17 hrs ago #73

Stories have come out that Gary Hart was framed MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #136

Those were all my thoughts, too, paleotn. BComplex 14 hrs ago #92

The timing is certainly political. hadEnuf 16 hrs ago #85

Hang in there 2naSalit! Cha 17 hrs ago #63

Thank you! 2naSalit 16 hrs ago #78

It is starting to feel like Edwards vs. Duke 1991 LA governor's race. The Grand Illuminist 6 hrs ago #126

Nobody is blaming you personally, and no one should be blaming Mainers in general MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #127

He should have been vetted... 2naSalit 5 hrs ago #128

Not a shiny new object. A person who expressed ideas that spoke to many people MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #137

I believe her; I just wish she had come forth BEFORE the Maine Primary Chasstev365 21 hrs ago #5

My guess is that she was hoping she wouldn't have to... Blasphemer 21 hrs ago #15

There was not question what the outcome of the primary would be MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #138

She did. Just not with the rape allegation. Bok_Tukalo 20 hrs ago #26

Or she was holding out for more cash. paleotn 19 hrs ago #38

All the reason not to believe her. paleotn 19 hrs ago #37

Been around long enough to see both Karl Rove and Roger Stone in action Bengus81 6 hrs ago #122

She spoke to NYT for the story that broke before the primary mcar 18 hrs ago #62

Where's the proof? Why believe someone you don't know about something you don't have evidence for? nt CozyMystery 9 hrs ago #117

i believe the records of her telling other people at the time MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #140

So much for Maine. He's toast. CousinIT 21 hrs ago #6

You are wrong MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #141

I mean given his checkered past and the previous incidents drray23 21 hrs ago #7

So how did it work out with Eric Swalwell? MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #142

I hope she has overcome her concern of being known as a rape vicitm Raven123 21 hrs ago #8

I'm not sure it was the media... AloeVera 20 hrs ago #27

Somebody was going to talk her into this MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #143

More exagerated bullshit, ie. Al Franken LiberalLovinLug 21 hrs ago #12

So Believe Women is over sarisataka 21 hrs ago #16

Sound like... 2naSalit 21 hrs ago #18

Conditional on the truth. LiberalLovinLug 21 hrs ago #19

Has truth been determined? sarisataka 21 hrs ago #20

No it hasn't. LiberalLovinLug 20 hrs ago #22

Do you vote in Maine? yardwork 20 hrs ago #23

Do you? paleotn 19 hrs ago #44

Nope. Thats why I'm not telling them what to do. yardwork 16 hrs ago #76

Nor am I. paleotn 16 hrs ago #83

I don't live in Maine MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #145

No argument from me. yardwork 26 min ago #151

You seem to think it has. From where does that info come from? paleotn 19 hrs ago #43

My quote is from the poster I replied to sarisataka 19 hrs ago #46

Glad to hear it. So am I. paleotn 19 hrs ago #51

I try not to jump on bandwagons sarisataka 19 hrs ago #54

That's a good way to put it. paleotn 19 hrs ago #55

He's lost the support of even Progressives MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #146

Apparently. sheshe2 21 hrs ago #21

I believe evidence. Got any? paleotn 19 hrs ago #41

Women lie? sarisataka 19 hrs ago #45

People lie. Await the evidence to pass judgement. paleotn 19 hrs ago #47

Sorry no stock picks sarisataka 19 hrs ago #49

I don't always believe anyone. BComplex 14 hrs ago #94

I hope your last line is sincere sarisataka 14 hrs ago #96

What kind of question is that? BComplex 14 hrs ago #99

Do you think she is lying? sarisataka 13 hrs ago #100

It's too late for another candidate to garner the support enough to win. BComplex 13 hrs ago #102

So it doesn't matter what he has done sarisataka 13 hrs ago #104

Um... BComplex 13 hrs ago #106

No I don't know her sarisataka 13 hrs ago #107

I get what you're saying. BComplex 13 hrs ago #109

I have not seen anything on TV sarisataka 13 hrs ago #110

Here is a part of the NYT article from back during the first republican round BComplex 2 hrs ago #134

From what I have read sarisataka 1 hr ago #147

What do you want manicdem 19 hrs ago #32

According to the Poster in #65 it is. MichMan 8 hrs ago #118

Conclusion premature. Up until this latest accusation, I would agree that... pat_k 16 hrs ago #74

The accusations against Platner are much different from those against Franken. yardwork 16 hrs ago #77

I agree with both of your points. spooky3 15 hrs ago #89

The main difference is that Franken was already elected. yardwork 6 hrs ago #121

Yes, Al should not have resigned. MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #144

No...he should have because a group of Dems threw him under the bus Bengus81 18 min ago #152

The Democratic Party doesn't allow this kind of behavior,, Escape 20 hrs ago #24

He was gonna anyway if he won the election n/t Polybius 18 hrs ago #61

You have that on good authority no doubt. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #66

I never suggested he is a Republican plant Polybius 4 hrs ago #130

I have had qualms (expressed here) from the first, but honestly, if I had been sitting by Molly Jong Fast hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #25

I actually see the timing as a positive and it gives her more credibility... Blasphemer 20 hrs ago #28

No. It's too late for a second candidate to galvanize the support that Platner BComplex 13 hrs ago #101

I would be curious to see what the NYT reporters say. Did she elaborate or not? Hassin Bin Sober 18 hrs ago #60

See? Nobody has considered her previous story, but they're BComplex 13 hrs ago #108

She didn't say there that he broke in? Seems like that would have been damn Bengus81 7 hrs ago #119

Those were my feelings about Molly... BComplex 14 hrs ago #98

Platner needs to drop out this afternoon WSHazel 20 hrs ago #29

If I was Platner, I would be so tired of the BS that I'd be seriously wanting to drop out BComplex 13 hrs ago #105

He raped a woman WSHazel 13 hrs ago #112

And you have proof of that without any doubt?d BComplex 2 hrs ago #135

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard for getting convicted of a crime WSHazel 46 min ago #150

The ruling class knives have been out for him from the door. BlueTsunami2018 20 hrs ago #30

David Costello pat_k 19 hrs ago #31

David Costello or Troy Jackson MadameButterfly 57 min ago #148

Interesting timing. mzmolly 19 hrs ago #33

The Maine Democratic Party calls on Graham Planter to drop out of the Senate race. LetMyPeopleVote 19 hrs ago #39

Who would replace him? iemanja 19 hrs ago #48

Not Mills. Shenna Bellows, Troy Jackson, Nirav Shah, Jordan Wood are mentioned by NYT pat_k 16 hrs ago #79

I hope they do find someone iemanja 12 hrs ago #114

Mission Accomplished...High fiving over at the WH,and laughing how easy it is Bengus81 6 hrs ago #124

I want to see other information. NewEnglandAutumn 19 hrs ago #40

I am with you. But I fear a specific accusation of drunken sexual assault goes way beyond the bullshit that brought down pat_k 19 hrs ago #50

What a distaster iemanja 19 hrs ago #42

Dozens of posts to this thread could be alerted on al bupp 19 hrs ago #52

You mean like how people can say almost anything about Fetterman? MichMan 16 hrs ago #81

You think Fetterman is a Democrat? When they go the DINO route we have the Bengus81 3 hrs ago #132

*sigh* Blue Owl 19 hrs ago #53

They have options pat_k 18 hrs ago #56

Amazing all of this comes out when Platner runs and he is leading in the polls. Timing means nothing. AZLD4Candidate 17 hrs ago #64

Dems always seem to just give up when something like this happens Dangling0826 17 hrs ago #65

So, you will only believe it if there is a video of him actually raping her? MichMan 16 hrs ago #84

pretty much!! Dangling0826 16 hrs ago #86

I'm getting these Al Franken fake vibes about this story kimbutgar 17 hrs ago #68

I am with you. But a specific accusation of drunken sexual assault goes beyond the bullshit that brought down Franken. pat_k 17 hrs ago #72

If he was behind Collins by five points there would be crickets........... Bengus81 6 hrs ago #120

Platner bromeando 17 hrs ago #69

Allegations against Democrats are fatal to Candidates pwb 16 hrs ago #75

Rapists have no place in leadership roles Quanta 16 hrs ago #80

Every Trumpublican condemning Platner must be confronted on ignoring more, and more egregious, accusations against Trump pat_k 16 hrs ago #82

THIS Bengus81 6 hrs ago #123

We are not going to get to the bottom of anything hadEnuf 15 hrs ago #87

Planter is the only person who can beat Collins duckworth969 15 hrs ago #88

I disagree that he is the only one who can beat Collins. pat_k 13 hrs ago #111

Appreciate your post duckworth969 8 min ago #153

Spot on, IMHO peggysue2 1 hr ago #139

If this were a GOP candidate, they'd say tonekat 15 hrs ago #90

Going with Rachel and Chris Hayes' this time kiranon 14 hrs ago #93

Vote D flamingdem 14 hrs ago #95

Can We Use This As A Moment to Reopen the Kavanaugh Investigation? DrFunkenstein 14 hrs ago #97

A Joan Barron? usonian 13 hrs ago #103

I'm just glad this waited until AFTER Taylor Swift's Wedding. flvegan 12 hrs ago #113

What? What does't her wedding have to do with any of this? LeftInTX 11 hrs ago #115

The amount of DUers still supporting this dude is appalling obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #133

Absolutely. The right move is to use this to come out ALL.GUNS BLAZING against GOP assaulters DrFunkenstein 47 min ago #149

Vote D no matter who? WinningAgain 4 hrs ago #131