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94. If you want to fly on a commercial airline, yes.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 09:29 AM
Yesterday

Paying your money to a for-profit airline in order to use their product means giving up a lot of personal freedoms. Or maybe you're sent by your employer on this trip as part of your job.

Flying on a commercial plane means experiencing the indignity of waiting in line to take off some of your clothes and have your body scanned or patted down by strangers, have your possessions gone through, possibly have your own property broken into and searched, etc. I can tell you from personal experience that as a woman it's not fun to "assume the position" spreadeagled in a plastic tube while federal employees look at your body in front of hundreds of people. It's not fun to have a personal item that matters to me removed from my luggage, angrily shown to me, and then thrown in a trash can in front of me. And that is if all goes well. Pity the people who are told to "follow me" by TSA agents. Wonder what happens to them, especially if they're immigrants.

And let me tell you if you're brown, like my wife, all this scrutiny is ramped up. She is always, always patted down. A 70 year old woman whose ancestors have been in this country for thousands of years.

Then you get to sit in a chair that is much too small for a grown human, tightly surrounded by other people who are sitting much too close to one another, in a tube with too little oxygen. Maybe some of those people are crying babies. Maybe some of them are panicking. Quite a few of them are drinking. Some of them brought strong smelling food with them. The one in front of you just reclined his seat into your lap. Forget it if you're claustrophobic. Say the serenity prayer over and over.

And then maybe you sit in that tiny space jammed with other people on the tarmac for hours. The bathroom toilets overflow and human sewage runs down the aisles. And the airline won't let you off. You are a mile from the gate and nobody - not even the pilot - knows when you can either take off into the air or return to the gate. Sometimes this lasts for hours. Google news reports.

But most of the time it's not "extreme" enough to make the news. Like the time I waited through delay after delay for ten hours to board a flight out of LGA only to have the flight cancelled at midnight. Options were to spend the night in the dark terminal or get a hotel room - which I did, no luggage of course, it was supposed to be a day trip up and back - only to return to the airport the next day to learn my flight was cancelled again. Finally got home 24 hours after I'd arrived at LGA for a 1.5 hour flight.

So yeah. There is nothing about flying on a commercial airplane that is dignified, that retains any constitutional rights as far as I can tell.

And somebody wants to enter this chaos wearing a shirt that says "bombing kids."

There is not one person on that flight who wants that kind of performance right then.

Oh hell no.

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Did his darker skin (visible in picture) RockCreek Monday #1
Hmmmm - let's guess. 3catwoman3 Monday #3
Or three guesses, first two don't count....🤔 littlemissmartypants Monday #6
Hmmm.... OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #92
I'm not offended. badhair77 Monday #2
"How dare you prick my conscience... AloeVera Monday #4
Who supported bombing kids? yardwork Monday #12
The person "offended". AloeVera Monday #18
???? yardwork Monday #19
You are somehow conflating two very distinct policies. AloeVera Monday #30
There must be a more detailed article that is being referenced here. yardwork Monday #31
Since you believe a policy against offensive attire and one on endangering public safety are one and the same... AloeVera Monday #45
I appreciate your research into this. yardwork Monday #46
I appreciate your research into this. yardwork Monday #47
Lack of research is not the problem here. AloeVera Monday #51
It's not a question of enforcing a long-standing policy SpankMe Monday #39
We all know what the shirt refers to TBF Monday #68
Airlines treat flying as a privilege, not a right. yardwork Monday #69
lol - yes all of that is factual TBF Monday #70
I'm certainly not defending it. yardwork Monday #71
Wearing a shirt is not defacing property - TBF Monday #73
We all must kowtow to our corporate masters Farmer-Rick Yesterday #93
If you want to fly on a commercial airline, yes. yardwork Yesterday #94
What the heck United? One of your flight attendants found that offensive? Biophilic Monday #5
Welcome to the United States of Authoritarianism. littlemissmartypants Monday #8
Here's what I would have told the personnel he spoke with BaronChocula Monday #64
Any reference to bombing or bombs gets anyone kicked off planes, yardwork Monday #7
My thought exactly. And good morning. NT mahatmakanejeeves Monday #9
Good morning! yardwork Monday #10
Maybe she should have explained that policy whathehell Monday #16
Sounds like she did. yardwork Monday #17
As the passenger said, whathehell Monday #41
According to the article, that's exactly what happened. yardwork Monday #42
"joked about a bomb" ... VERY DAMNED DIFFERENT. Again CONTEXT matters. hlthe2b Monday #50
I read your report of the article whathehell Monday #52
You might be responding to the wrong post? yardwork Monday #54
You are correct whathehell Monday #58
No worries at all. yardwork Monday #61
Good.. whathehell Monday #66
You are correct whathehell Monday #59
Again context matters for use of the word "bomb" hlthe2b Monday #49
Exactly.. whathehell Monday #56
Nice stretch there. AloeVera Monday #20
Context matters, yardwork. That is an incredible stretch. I like his lawyer's odds on this one. hlthe2b Monday #24
Really. yardwork Monday #27
Uggh huh. Threatening to remove him if he did not remove his shirt is a viable "harm" especially hlthe2b Monday #36
yeah- R0ckyRac00n Monday #55
Thanks for confirming what I suspected. ShazzieB Monday #67
The First Amendment is not relevant Cirsium Monday #83
THANK YOU Skittles Monday #81
It will be settled out of court. The Wizard Monday #11
Did he miss the flight? yardwork Monday #15
So their policy is if anyone of their staff is offended by your shirt, intheflow Monday #34
I think the DID understand what the shirt meant, Haggard Celine 23 hrs ago #96
You don't say the word "BOMB" in an airport or on a jet... nor should you make references to them. QueerDuck Monday #13
His subsequent actions tend to support that conclusion. yardwork Monday #14
Really...? displacedvermoter Monday #23
You. Don't. Say. BOMB. In. An. Airport. 💣️✈️ QueerDuck Monday #26
Ok displacedvermoter Monday #29
He didn't say it. AloeVera Monday #38
Blaming the flight attendant personally ignores the reality of the airline industry and how corporate liability works. QueerDuck Monday #72
The airline itself characterized it as a dress code violation, not a safety violation. AloeVera Monday #74
Passengers must obey flight crew instructions. He did. Then whined about it. End of story. QueerDuck Monday #75
So, using your own words, someone made a "subjective judgement" AloeVera Monday #78
As a legitimate backup to the threatening word of bomb. Yes. When it comes to flight crew the rule is simple.... QueerDuck Monday #79
I gave up to attend to my whiplash. AloeVera Yesterday #95
I want that shirt to wear to protests, Bayard Monday #21
This is the ridiculous side of those who want to make everything antisemitic and there are those hlthe2b Monday #22
Who said this incident is antisemitic? yardwork Monday #28
I listed this as but one of several possibilities. Again, jumping to conclusions is problematic hlthe2b Monday #32
What similar incidents? yardwork Monday #35
If she found that offensive then she must find 'Bombing kids is self defense' acceptable ToxMarz Monday #25
Exactly! If his flight partner had a t-shirt with your slogan, which one would get kicked off? TheRickles Monday #77
A thought experiment relogic Monday #33
I find that to be extraordinarily unlikely. yardwork Monday #37
Please be specific relogic Monday #40
Your last sentence. yardwork Monday #43
So, then relogic Monday #53
Sure, the Trump administration is nuts and authoritarian. yardwork Monday #60
You underestimate relogic Monday #85
or maybe Skittles Monday #84
Hell, I want one! no_hypocrisy Monday #44
Just don't try to wear it on a plane! yardwork Monday #48
In related news Soul_of_Wit Monday #57
He'll win Joinfortmill Monday #62
He didn't mention any names. Why would one be upset?. twodogsbarking Monday #63
Me feelwings were hurt. I've seen shirts on planes WAY more "Hot Words" chouchou Monday #65
Irony... Both sides of the conflict could use the same meme/slogan on their propaganda. OC375 Monday #76
Would an idiot donning mAga attire get treated the same? BHDem53 Monday #80
Not likely... displacedvermoter Monday #82
In solidarity.... Dethhogan Monday #86
Selective reading by a not too bright airline person. Aussie105 Monday #87
I'm offended by that United flight attendant RainCaster Monday #88
Will United make the MAGAt change their shirt? Or take off their red hat? maspaha Monday #89
Gonna go out on a limb here and say air travel is not the place to fly your position flags high LearnedHand Monday #90
I'm giving the flight attendant a mulligan on this Ruby the Liberal Yesterday #91
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