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yardwork

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48. I think that you and I have different personalities.
Sun May 17, 2026, 02:29 PM
May 17

I know the Myers-Briggs personality test is flawed in many ways, but when I consistently test as an INTJ and similarly on every other personality test that's been inflicted on me during "team building" work exercises, I acknowledge a pattern. Simply put, INTJs can be real jerks. Also, I'm probably on the autism spectrum.

I am comfortable with facts and not comfortable with emotional appeals. I try hard to remember that people's feelings matter.

Digging deeply into my emotional feelings, let me say:

1. I am appalled by many of Israel's actions.

2. I am appalled by many of Hamas's actions.

3. I am appalled by how quickly people fall back on hatred, fear, and negative stereotypes of Jewish people. I expect to see that on the right. The Republican Party is full of bigots. They're disgusting and as far as I can tell they have no valid reasons to feel that way. It's purely greed and meanness. What's appalling to me is to see so much of this bigotry on the left. I read and hear awful things said about Jewish people, even here on DU.

4. I don't agree with the premise of this thread that Israel has all the propaganda on their side. (If you look at right wing Christian congregations and their Republican representatives, sure. They're pro-Israel for a disgusting reason: they think its destruction will bring about Armageddon and the Rapture. In other words they built Israel to see it destroyed. Not exactly allies you really want.) Globally, Palestine has all the momentum. Everybody is mad at Israel now (except the Pete Hegseths as I mention above).

I see a tiny population of people up against the rest of the world, most of whom hate them and want them destroyed. To me, Israel and Jewish people are the underdogs. By numbers alone.

I think there is a very real possibility that Israel will be wiped from the map. I think there is a possibility that the people of the world who hate Jews will succeed in their final solution.

There is no such risk for Muslims. They are the largest and fastest growing religious group on earth. I know that the Palestinians in Gaza don't feel that way. Globally, Muslims are not the underdogs.

I hope this helps. I will say that I am sincere in what I post on DU. I may be a bitch with a big mouth but I'm not a troll. Nobody pays me to post. I write my own words. I'm not part of a group and my agenda, such as it is, is my own. I really am a little old white gay woman who grew up in a rural community and just tries to say it like I see it.

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Lucky enough to meet a couple of multigraincracker May 17 #1
Ditto malaise May 17 #2
The propaganda portrays Israel is "the good guys" and Muslims as "the bad guys" Orrex May 17 #3
Yes Israel has controlled the narrative here and elsewhere for a long time FakeNoose May 17 #8
Do you know any Jewish people? yardwork May 17 #11
Yes we have many Jewish groups in Pittsburgh and I have several friends and neighbors of the Jewish faith FakeNoose May 17 #36
So you are accusing your Jewish friends and neighbors of the following? yardwork May 17 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Biophilic May 17 #47
Where are you seeing that? yardwork May 17 #9
Just out of curiosity... Orrex May 17 #21
Good question. I rarely use the AI results, but here goes... yardwork May 17 #23
We need to be careful not to conflate Jews as a people with the state of Israel Orrex May 17 #29
I was responding to your post above. yardwork May 17 #31
Ah yes--you did respond. My bad. Orrex May 17 #35
You have not. yardwork May 17 #37
I'm sorry that you don't care to engage with the subject seriously Orrex May 17 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 18 #61
Oh staaahp, you relentless flirt! Orrex May 18 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 18 #65
I admire the courage of your convictions, willing to stand by your totally level-headed statements Orrex May 18 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 18 #68
Thank you and an excellent response. Biophilic May 17 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 18 #60
And a lovely good morning to you as well? Orrex May 18 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 18 #66
Muslims: Bad press since The Crusades no_hypocrisy May 17 #4
Well, those and that little "conversion by the sword" thing. ColoringFool May 17 #5
What gets overlooked Old Crank May 17 #6
The Christian Crusaders butchered both Jews and Muslims. yardwork May 17 #12
And a lot of other Christians Old Crank May 17 #58
Not to mention a lot of women, pagans, so-called witches. yardwork May 18 #62
THIS!!!!!!! eom BlueMTexpat May 17 #13
"Conversion by the sword" is a misconception/trope used against Muslims since the Middle Ages. AloeVera May 17 #16
Islamic people developed most of what we think of as modern advances. yardwork May 17 #22
I believe there is still a tremendous amount of guilt about what happened in WWII. Biophilic May 17 #7
it didnt start w ww2. mopinko May 17 #19
What didn't start with WWII? Biophilic May 17 #24
attacks on jews. mopinko May 17 #28
It's interesting, isn't it. yardwork May 17 #32
yup. mopinko May 17 #33
Oh, good grief, no. Like a couple of millennium. Biophilic May 17 #49
it mystifies me, too. mopinko May 17 #52
All I can do is agree with you. It's honestly a mystery. And Christianity never looks good. Biophilic May 17 #53
Most of what you've written here is inaccurate. yardwork May 17 #25
As I stated in my post these are the myths I grew up with. Myths! Not truths. Biophilic May 17 #43
So you don't agree with what you wrote above? yardwork May 17 #45
Many decades of conditioning, propaganda and manipulation have brought us here. OGBuzz May 17 #10
You can say that again. yardwork May 17 #14
You're saying it becase you imagine that it serves your agenda. Orrex May 17 #41
Seems like every country needs to have a focal point to hate BeneteauBum May 17 #15
Israel has plenty of reason to fear their neighbors. yardwork May 17 #17
Basically I agree with you BeneteauBum May 17 #40
I agree with this post. yardwork May 17 #46
For them, the end justifies the means. AloeVera May 17 #18
Are you quoting Hamas? yardwork May 17 #20
You can't just "disagree" with a genocide. AloeVera May 17 #42
I think that you and I have different personalities. yardwork May 17 #48
Don't be too sure of that! AloeVera May 17 #51
Not everyone BlueWaveNeverEnd May 17 #26
Its also American terrorism SSJVegeta May 17 #27
Bigotry, willful ignorance, cognitive dissonance, disingenuousness, motivated reasoning, etc. RockRaven May 17 #30
"Israel has plenty of reason to fear their neighbors." J_William_Ryan May 17 #34
What do you think would be an appropriate way TBF May 17 #50
Before the massacre, thousands of Palestinians were being held w/o charges, questionseverything May 17 #54
Nice evasion but I'm curious - who started the fire? TBF May 17 #55
so u believe everything u read in the nyt now? mopinko May 17 #56
There are pictures, there's victim testimony, there's ashamed Isreal guards testimony questionseverything May 17 #57
Nothing will be enough. AloeVera May 17 #59
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