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William Seger

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21. Gee, the people in Groundhog Day kept asking the same questions, too
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:47 AM
Mar 2014

> So where are the photos of the landing gear strut that supposedly punched the hole?

I posted a photo with the strut outlined.

> Even one would help.

Apparently not.

> Why didn't the other landing gear struts punch other holes?

Uh, maybe because they got stopped inside the building, as shown in this photo? Are you saying that it's a mystery to you how a strut could punch that hole, but if it did, then it's a mystery to you why this other one didn't? You really love mysteries, dontcha.



> The landing gear strut is one of a few theories. But there's no proof for any of these kooky made up "thought" experiments.

The wider picture I posted seems to show a large piece of engine, so that is another possibility, but if you think that mass times velocity is "a kooky made up 'thought' experiment" then you're not likely to solve any mysteries involving physics. Are you suggesting that if nobody can prove which piece of heavy debris punched that hole, then it's rational to conclude that no plane hit the Pentagon? I'd be more careful about calling other theories "kooky."

> Are you saying that the Pentagon did not have the capability to shoot down aircraft that posed a threat? The centre of the "Worlds Only Superpower"? After 5 decades of a "cold war" where students were told to hide under desks in case of a nuclear attack?

Yup, that's exactly what I'm saying: There is no evidence or credible testimony from anyone who would know that there were anti-aircraft missiles or guns at the Pentagon. In fact, there are explicit denials, but my own opinion is based on the Google Earth historical photos taken before 9/11 which don't show any such thing. As for your picture, the link it comes from says, "Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld ordered the launchers placed around Washignton (sic) as a 'prudent precaution' on the first anniversary of the terrorist attack on the Pentagon." That was an odd thing to do if they were already there, but why are you trying to deceive us by posting a picture of one of those launchers?

> Anyone that believes anything uttered from Dick Cheney's mouth should be embarrassed and ashamed

I didn't ask you to believe Cheney, nor would I. If you'll look back, what I actually said was about "what Norman Mineta himself believed when he described Cheney's response to the 'young man' and what others who were actually there reported." It's pretty clear (and funny) what criteria "truthers" use to decide what to believe and what to reject about Mineta's testimony.

> We will keep asking questions and doing things like phoning C-SPAN and there isn't anything at all anyone can do to stop us.

LOL, no doubt about that, since facts and logic don't seem to have any effect, but the question is, if you keep asking questions like those here and then ignoring the answers, why should anyone take you seriously?



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September 11 – The New Pearl Harbor [View all] damnedifIknow Mar 2014 OP
FFS will this stuff ever end? nt Logical Mar 2014 #1
With answers it will end damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #2
The answer is there! You just ignore it! nt Logical Mar 2014 #3
Not at all damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #4
The real story is boring to you, conspiracy is alway more fun! nt Logical Mar 2014 #5
Would you be open to a new investigation? damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #6
yes, but who would you trust to do the investigating? zappaman Mar 2014 #7
Many do reject the NIST version damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #8
Sure, no downside to that I agree. Unless really costly. nt Logical Mar 2014 #9
What lingering questions would those be? AZCat Mar 2014 #10
why was there molten steel & iron? n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #11
You know the answer to that William Seger Mar 2014 #14
so again you'll deny what... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #15
What I deny is their ability to identify "molten steel" by sight William Seger Mar 2014 #16
What about Janet MacKinlay? wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #17
fail! wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #18
Flail! William Seger Mar 2014 #19
So stop flailing! wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #22
Microspheres were found in all the dust William Seger Mar 2014 #23
Here are a few nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #12
Gee, it's like 2006 all over again William Seger Mar 2014 #13
Gee, it's 2014 and people keep asking questions nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #20
Gee, the people in Groundhog Day kept asking the same questions, too William Seger Mar 2014 #21
Where are the seats? Politicalboi Apr 2014 #24
There really isn't any point in this. AZCat Apr 2014 #25
"We've been through this dance before, and know what to expect." wildbilln864 May 2014 #26
Fooling anyone about what, bill? AZCat May 2014 #27
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