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zappaman

(20,625 posts)
8. yeah right...
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 02:08 AM
Dec 2011

The conspiracy literature occasionally still quotes a supposed study done by the London Sunday Times which found that "the odds against these [assassination] witnesses being dead by February 1967, were one hundred thousand trillion to one." The House Select Committee on Assassinations asked the newspaper where they got that number. The paper replied with the following letter.

The Editor has passed me your letter of 25th April.

Our piece about the odds against the deaths of the Kennedy witnesses was, I regret to say, based on a careless journalistic mistake and should not have been published. This was realized by The Sunday Times' editorial staff after the first edition — the one which goes to the United States and which I believe you have — had gone out, and later editions were amended.

There was no question of our actuary having got his answer wrong. It was simply that we asked him the wrong question. He was asked what were the odds against 15 named people out of the population of the United States dying within a short period of time to which he replied — correctly — that they were very high. However, if one asks what are the odds against 15 of those included in the Warren Commission index dying within a given period, the answer is, of course, that they are much lower. Our mistake was to treat the reply to the former question as if it dealt with the latter — hence the fundamental error in our first edition report, for which we apologize.

None of the editorial staff involved in this story can remember the name of the actuary we consulted, but in view of what happened you will, I imagine, agree that his identity is hardly material.

Yours sincerely,
Antony Whitaker,
Legal Manager.

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are there links anywhere for each person with the cause of death of each person? n/t maddezmom Dec 2011 #1
Try google Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #3
you've seem to come up with a conclusion...don't you have links or a maddezmom Dec 2011 #5
The link is provided in the source.. Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #6
my link gave the causes of death n/t zappaman Dec 2011 #7
of course you wouldn't want anyone to see what the london sunday times actually admitted zappaman Dec 2011 #9
what are the odds that this debunked crap has been floating around for almost 50 years? zappaman Dec 2011 #2
Challenge: Try to refute a) the data and b) the math Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #4
yeah right... zappaman Dec 2011 #8
Still wating for a response the the challenge. Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #13
We've been refuting the causes of "witness" deaths down below. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #30
This doesn't raise any questions, or red flags, from you? Ghost in the Machine Dec 2011 #32
"defend himself" about what? OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #33
How about "confirm or refute this story"? Ghost in the Machine Dec 2011 #35
yes, it does -- but it still doesn't seem very relevant OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #36
Actually, the odds against them having been born are greater jberryhill Dec 2011 #12
Very funny..but does not address the specific problem... Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #14
Yes it does jberryhill Dec 2011 #16
Have you actually read the math proof? Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #26
Why is it unnatural for people to die in automobile accidents? Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #27
I won't even bother to respond to that. Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #28
How about the bigger question? Unnatural but innocuous, why do they count? n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #29
well... OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #34
Eddy Benavides was shot in February 1965, not 1964. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #10
Heart attacks are not "dying unnaturally." And why do you get the Unknown? Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #11
Ok, two heart attacks and one unknown. That leaves 12. Here are the odds. Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #15
How was Teresa Norton a "witness"? zappaman Dec 2011 #18
How is DeLesseps Morrison, who was a mayor of New Orleans a "witness"? zappaman Dec 2011 #19
Odds of a meteor landing on your house: 182,138,880,000,000 to 1 zappaman Dec 2011 #20
Nope, 11. Eddy (as I noted above) is in February 1965, not 1964. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #23
How was Hugh Ward a "witness"? zappaman Dec 2011 #17
Nitpicking. They were related deaths... Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #21
Enlighten me how a mayor of New Orleans is connected to the JFK case zappaman Dec 2011 #22
Were all employees of Jack Ruby fatally shot? n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #24
you say gary underhill was a CIA agent zappaman Dec 2011 #25
Jesus, not this stuff again......read Case Closed by Gerald Posner Logical Dec 2011 #31
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