Curious, where is the hew and cry ....over the treatment...

[Warpy]

1. I've had a great opportunity to talk with women

from many of those countries and they all say the same things, that the restrictions are ameliorated by family and that they feel exposed and unprotected in western countries.

What the Saudi women want most of all is to be able to drive, so that they don't have to wheedle, badger and bully some man off the couch so they can go out and get a quart of milk and loaf of bread. Other than that, they were quite satisfied with the way things were.

It's always a mistake to judge somebody else's culture by your own without having a lot of the facts. While we hear appalling abuses of their system like rape victims being stoned to death for complaining about being raped, they see the appalling statistics of rape and general violence toward women here with the same alarm and count themselves lucky to be veiled and kept within the family's bosom.