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18. Never really understood the charge of manslaughter

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 10:02 AM

Feb 2012

Murder, as it is defined, denotes certain malice involved with carrying out the act. While manslaughter is by no means an "innocent" act, the intent behind it is perceived to be one less malicious, less cold, and less absolute than that of murder.

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The story is incomplete on details but I'd think it's pretty "malicious" to push someone out a window. Another way to look at this, maybe, is if he pushed some random guy out the window, that'd be murder but pushing his wife out the window is only manslaughter. Doesn't make sense to me, cause you gotta shove someone pretty darn hard to get them to go through a window.

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Domestic Violence is an epidemic in this country [View all] boston bean Feb 2012 OP

Because it's obligatory to post this response while on DU... laconicsax Feb 2012 #1

I am talking about female victims of domestic violence. boston bean Feb 2012 #2

I completely agree. laconicsax Feb 2012 #3

I know. boston bean Feb 2012 #5

It isn't about justification, but dismissal. laconicsax Feb 2012 #6

yes, you said it better than I. Dismiss is much more descriptive of the tactic. boston bean Feb 2012 #7

Both sexes use violence. Neoma Feb 2012 #8

...in disproportionate numbers. laconicsax Feb 2012 #9

This thread is about domestic violence perpetrated against women. boston bean Feb 2012 #10

I was just mentioning a random thought. Neoma Feb 2012 #11

Presumably half of the children murdered in domestic violence are male. yardwork Feb 2012 #4

k and r niyad Feb 2012 #12

isn't this a group now- not a forum? Tumbulu Feb 2012 #13

Yes, that is exactly what will happen. redqueen Feb 2012 #21

I think the word "epidemic" is a bit strong...... HowHeThinks Feb 2012 #14

"epidemic". really? see, that word doesnt matter to me at all. i just know it is rough out there seabeyond Feb 2012 #31

From a public health perspective, it really is an epidemic. yardwork Feb 2012 #34

I represent a woman who is continues to be a victim of domestic violence. no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #15

That scenario is not uncommon. redqueen Feb 2012 #22

My client grew up in a stable, middle-class, surburban family. no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #35

tangentially ... iverglas Feb 2012 #36

Yes. no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #40

watch out ;) iverglas Feb 2012 #42

I've taken it on myself to protect her when he's tried to approach her no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #43

Can I get sources for that stat? Prophet 451 Feb 2012 #16

of course you can iverglas Feb 2012 #25

and good old wiki tops the list iverglas Feb 2012 #27

Not my intention to muddy the waters Prophet 451 Feb 2012 #30

the square-bracketed footnotes didn't show up iverglas Feb 2012 #32

Domestic Violence Post February 13, 2012 boston bean Feb 2012 #17

Never really understood the charge of manslaughter justiceischeap Feb 2012 #18

manslaughter: iverglas Feb 2012 #28

One of the principle reasons is there is so little assistance for the abusers dickthegrouch Feb 2012 #19

There's no support groups for bank robbers either. boston bean Feb 2012 #20

that was going to be my line iverglas Feb 2012 #29

Why does it have to get to the point of being a crime? dickthegrouch Feb 2012 #33

Are you really unfamiliar with anger management classes? redqueen Feb 2012 #23

most of the time the abuser is let out and has a restraining order boston bean Feb 2012 #24

They should be ordered to attend mandatory daily counseling sessions. redqueen Feb 2012 #26

And let's not forget about verbal abuse justiceischeap Feb 2012 #37

Verbal abuse is just as destructive Lisa D Feb 2012 #38

thank you for this maddezmom Feb 2012 #39

and of course, this iverglas Feb 2012 #41

My mum was the victim of verbal abuse while I was growing up... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #45

Yeah, my dad is a "yeller" too justiceischeap Feb 2012 #46

Domestic Violence Post February 14, 2012 boston bean Feb 2012 #44

I think these would have more impact as OPs laconicsax Feb 2012 #47

Sure I could do that, as long as people do not object. boston bean Feb 2012 #48

I can't think of a reason why someone would object unless they're a disruptor. laconicsax Feb 2012 #49

kicking this sad thread Tumbulu Feb 2012 #50