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In reply to the discussion: Just what is "The Patriarchy"? [View all]

redqueen

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17. Not really, not IMO...
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:17 PM
Feb 2012

although I'm sure others see it differently, the way I see it is that the patriarchy is a part of the kyriarchy, but only one part. The domination by racial groups, religious groups, etc. are separate, although the forces do seem to pretty much combine at times.

Look at our President. Here's a high-status man. Well educated, affluent, powerful. But due to the color of his skin, he is treated differently.

His wealth can no more eliminate the unfair way he is treated due to his skin color than the wealthiest or most powerful woman's status or skin color can make up for he fact that she is female. Just as no poor white redneck's skin color will make up for the fact that he is poor, when he is being discriminated against on the basis of his lack of wealth.

The different ways people are oppressed, mocked, insulted, dismissed, etc. due to whatever facets of their individuality are ways that are intertwined but still distinct... the separate but intersecting heirarchies involved are reinforced by the efforts of those who participate in whatever particular form of oppression/domination is at play at any given time or in whatever context.

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Just what is "The Patriarchy"? [View all] redqueen Feb 2012 OP
If you have to ask Aerows Feb 2012 #1
Thank you for posting this. William769 Feb 2012 #2
We don't, cher Aerows Feb 2012 #3
Thanks Redqueen. Texasgal Feb 2012 #4
This is interesting - thanks for posting it. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #5
It's part of class... redqueen Feb 2012 #6
I just saw that word for the first time earlier this week. Is it safe to say Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #13
Not really, not IMO... redqueen Feb 2012 #17
Okay - I got ya now. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #19
My pleasure... redqueen Feb 2012 #20
This is the patriarchy justiceischeap Feb 2012 #7
Yes that picture on DU front page is Clear as a Bell The empressof all Feb 2012 #9
A picture really is worth a thousand words Lisa D Feb 2012 #10
Yep. That is the problem right there. Rex Feb 2012 #11
5 men in front and 7 more seated right behind them. Lisa D Feb 2012 #12
You know why. Rex Feb 2012 #15
This *enrages* me. MadrasT Feb 2012 #14
I really hope that Rachel Maddow, the Daily Show Lisa D Feb 2012 #16
Looks like Congress. yardwork Feb 2012 #18
That pic is so apt for this thread. So timely. So enraging. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #21
Posted to facebook. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #23
Nothing could be more clear than that photo. DevonRex Feb 2012 #38
Great post Lisa D Feb 2012 #8
Thanks, Redqueen. kdmorris Feb 2012 #22
That "kyriarchy" term is very interesting - I picture it as a multi-dimensional petronius Feb 2012 #24
Visuals are always good - and if I am understanding this correctly, I like that one alot. nt Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #25
I do not agree with what has been presented as Kyriarchy. I don't think priviledge is that complex stevenleser Feb 2012 #26
It depends on how you define power, right? It isn't just about petronius Feb 2012 #27
I don't think so. I really think it's simple. Here's why stevenleser Feb 2012 #28
I'm not sure that's correct, though kdmorris Feb 2012 #30
But again, think about the definition: stevenleser Feb 2012 #32
Some minority groups are more oppressive to women than the American born white christian Nikia Feb 2012 #34
Hmmmm, good point. I think in the case of women, it does apply. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #35
I sort of understand it, but I would appreciate some clarification FrodosPet Feb 2012 #29
k&r Cameron27 Feb 2012 #31
This is a very important statement Nikia Feb 2012 #33
Thanks for the clarification. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #36
thanks for this post, redqueen. bkmrkng for future reference. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #37
Thanks for the post Tumbulu Feb 2012 #39
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