I'm afraid.

[Straw Man]

34. ... and there.

I know you'll find any way possible to say gun violence has noting to do with guns, but it's nonsense.

There you are again with the red herring. Obviously "gun violence" is impossible without guns, just as "knife violence" is impossible without knives and "potato violence" is impossible without potatoes. Overall violence as manifested in homicide rates is the issue, the one you're trying desperately to avoid.

I have a hard time though ACTUALLY thinking that you believe the US is a second world country, in any respects, as those are basically limited to Eastern Europe and poor countries in Asia.

It depends on where you are in the US. Have you been to Detroit lately? A society that can't provide all its citizens with clean water is not a First World society in my book.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/special-features/2014/08/140822-detroit-michigan-water-shutoffs-great-lakes/

Then consider where the bulk of the murders are happening. What conclusions can you draw about the relationship between socioeconomic injustice and criminal violence?

I may have said murder rate, but I was obviously not quoting the murder rate... you can PRETEND I was lying about that, but I wasn't. You can believe it was an accident or not; your choice.

And you can PRETEND you meant something you didn't say, but you can't hold me responsible for not divining your intention.