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Major Nikon

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3. Deism has more to do with the foundation of this country than theism

Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:14 PM

Jan 2019

This was by design as in 1776 the populace would have never accepted a godless state. Instead a god that didn't care about them was inserted so a secular union could be created.

Those who point to references to a higher power in the foundation documents tend to ignore this reality and most do so in order to further the false idea we are a "Christian nation".

It's important to remember the founders of this country saw the marriage of organized religion and government as the antithesis to power by and for the people. Those who seek to get those two things back together again aren't doing anyone any favors, including theists.

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I think the idea of "civil religion" is a contradiction in terms. [View all] MineralMan Jan 2019 OP

It's just another attempt at equivocation. trotsky Jan 2019 #1

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Jan 2019 #2

Deism has more to do with the foundation of this country than theism Major Nikon Jan 2019 #3

Only very weak statements referring to any sort of deity MineralMan Jan 2019 #4

Out of the 7 most influential founding fathers... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #9

To the point. Firestorm49 Jan 2019 #5

I'm not so sure. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #6

While some minority of people might treat those things in those ways, MineralMan Jan 2019 #7

I think it is more pervasive, actually. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #8

That was one of the critiques of the idea immediately after it was presented Major Nikon Jan 2019 #10

Thus speaks the official definer. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #11

What are the first two words in my title, Guy? MineralMan Jan 2019 #12

Not a contradiction in terms, just something the US doesn't have muriel_volestrangler Jan 2019 #13

Religion does not have to be theistic. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #14

While that's true, the word, religion, has theistic connotations MineralMan Jan 2019 #16

Oh absolutely and it was clear that is why Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #20

Yup. MineralMan Jan 2019 #21

You bring up a good point though I think the "religious" elements of this "civil religion" stuff... trotsky Jan 2019 #17

Yes the US version is clearly christian. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #18

I think religion is more about the symbols and ceremonies than the beliefs marylandblue Jan 2019 #15

I understood "Civil Religion" uriel1972 Jan 2019 #19