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In reply to the discussion: New here. SHOULD CHRISTIANS VOTE FOR A MORMON ? [View all]InterestingJack
(1 post)joecannon,
I encourage you to take an honest look at the history and origins of the LDS, and the early prophets and their prophecies. Never has the idea that there is more than one eternal God, Creator of the entire universe, or that the Heavenly Father had a god over Him, ever been considered Christian.
Mormon's don't believe, teach or even talk about the things you mention. Which Mormons are you talking about 19th, 20th, or 21st century Mormons? Every teaching Max wrote about can be documented from Mormon writings throughout LDS history. Many are still being taught on LDS.org. I guess the others have been scrubbed. A few are listed below (if you are truly interested):
Mormons teach there are many gods and there were an untold number of gods before the Heavenly Father became a god.
LDS.org : "Long before our God began his creations, he dwelt on a mortal world like ours, one of the creations that his Father had created for him and his brethren. He, with many of his brethren, was obedient to the principles of the eternal gospel. One among these, it is presumed, was a savior for them, and through him they obtained a resurrection and an exaltation on an eternal, celestial world. Then they gained the power and godhood of their Father and were made heirs of all that he had, continuing his works and creating worlds of their own for their own posteritythe same as their Father had done before, and his Father, and his Father, and on and on. " http://lds.org/new-era/1971/04/people-on-other-worlds?lang=eng
Mormons teach that the Heavenly Father once was a man and somehow became a god. LDS.org: The doctrine that God was once a man and has progressed to become a God is unique to this Church. How do you feel, knowing that God, through His own experience, knows all that we know regarding the toils [and] sufferings of mortality?
http://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-brigham-young/chapter-4?lang=eng
Mormons teach that Jesus and Satan are brothers.
LDS.org: On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to someespecially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel who was in authority in the presence of God, a son of the morning. (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:2527.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifers older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)
http://lds.org/ensign/1986/06/i-have-a-question/i-have-a-question?lang=eng
Mormons teach that all of us are spirit children of Heavenly Parents. They birthed us somehow, possibly sexually.
LDS.org: There are forces that work beyond our sight. Sometimes we think the whole job is up to us, forgetful that there are loved ones beyond our sight who are thinking about us and our children. We forget that we have a Heavenly Father and a Heavenly Mother who are even more concerned, probably, than our earthly father and mother, and that influences from beyond are constantly working to try to help us when we do all we can. http://lds.org/ensign/1974/02/a-sure-trumpet-sound-quotations-from-president-lee?lang=eng
Before there was a sun, a moon, or even ground to sit on, we all lived in heaven with our heavenly parents. We were their spirit children, and we didnt have physical bodies yet. http://lds.org/liahona/2010/01/jehovah-and-the-wonderful-plan-of-our-heavenly-father?lang=eng
Mormons teach that mankind can progress and become gods just like our heavenly parents, the same way they became gods.
LDS.org: In the heavens, before the earth was formed, the plan of this earth life was explained to all of us. We were then but spirit offspring of our Father and Mother in heaven.
We all learned then that through this earth life experience we would have the opportunity of going through the same type of experiences they had done and so become as they are.
http://lds.org/ensign/1974/01/opposition-in-order-to-strengthen-us?lang=eng
You use the words hoax, twisted, and distorted in describing Maxs understanding of Mormon teachings, yet, everything can be documented. In actuality, the hoax was perpetrated by Joseph Smith and the LDS prophets who succeeded him, by perverting the Biblical gospel. You are welcome to believe it, but the Mormon Heavenly Father and Mormon Jesus is different from the Biblical Heavenly Father and Biblical Jesus.
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