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gollygee

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7. He could have both

Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:56 AM

Dec 2013

done good with Wikileaks and still be a rapist.

People seem to have an odd black/white idea of good and bad. If he did one thing good, then he couldn't possibly have done something bad. He is good and can only be good. And if people are suggesting that he might have done something bad, they are saying he is bad and everything he has done must be bad.

But that's not how people are. It is entirely possible that he did Wikileaks for good reasons, and that it was a good thing, but that he's also guilty of rape. We need a trial to find out about the rape charges. If the case is as weak as people claim (and I have no idea as I'm not an expert on this) then that will become clear pretty quickly in the trial.

But we can't just not charge people with rape when they've been accused because we like something else they've done. Would we feel that way about charges for any other crime? Or is it just rape?

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Victim Shaming on behalf of Julian Assange [View all] BainsBane Dec 2013 OP

Fuck Julian Assange ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #1

About your post title - Please don't intaglio Dec 2013 #2

from what i understand, that is his goal. to get women preg.... egomaniac. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #4

You mean the "no you fuck him" types ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #17

egomaniac and weasel are the two descriptive i put on the guy also. wowser, lol. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #19

Was Julian Assange Of WikiLeaks Set Up? WillYourVoteBCounted Dec 2013 #23

right. the all important cable that putin is an alpha. wowsers... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #24

This started out consensual with both women ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #30

What's not a coincidence is people standing behind an accused rapist BainsBane Dec 2013 #31

For a start off these are not the first allegations intaglio Dec 2013 #33

We are Women Against Rape but we do not want Julian Assange extradited... Rockyj Dec 2013 #58

this is why using "women against rape" with this article is garbage. everyone knows the sweden seabeyond Dec 2013 #65

What is the worst thing that can be done to destroy a persons credibility Rockyj Dec 2013 #51

ah. so when a woman says no (because no condom) and a man holds her down, that is acceptable seabeyond Dec 2013 #52

That story has changed many times... Rockyj Dec 2013 #53

Supposed Rajputs = good. Supposed victim = bad. No day in court cause the net says so. seabeyond Dec 2013 #54

Hey, you know, it's all the rage xulamaude Dec 2013 #56

So you were there? Rockyj Dec 2013 #57

Not "there" xulamaude Dec 2013 #60

you seem to throw up the no one knows when convenient, yet deny the women the right to take to court seabeyond Dec 2013 #66

Wow. You have a lot of nerve to come into this space and diss one of our most Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #55

Whoa there... Rockyj Dec 2013 #59

Maybe you should read up on some things before you come in here running your mouth. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #62

Thank you. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #63

"I question your sudden concern for the so called victims". that would be a personal attack. and seabeyond Dec 2013 #67

he is pure egomaniac. i did nto think much of him and manning prior to rape charges. but, since... seabeyond Dec 2013 #3

Why can't mercuryblues Dec 2013 #5

both, what? i believe it is a big old scam. he isnt wanted. he is not gonna be got by u.s. seabeyond Dec 2013 #6

Wikileaks hits that turned the world on its head WillYourVoteBCounted Dec 2013 #22

i knew most of that shit before wiki came out. and if i knew most of the stuff, bet it pretty much seabeyond Dec 2013 #25

Vast Lying Machine xulamaude Dec 2013 #26

He could have both gollygee Dec 2013 #7

Your last sentence poses a good question. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #8

that is mercuryblues Dec 2013 #9

and that should be easy. it doesnt conflict. that would be the difference of judging and not. seabeyond Dec 2013 #11

gasp... obama. lol. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #12

and also some insist if you want to see Assange answer for the sexual assault BainsBane Dec 2013 #16

It's a damn mysogynist view. So what IF xulamaude Dec 2013 #20

exactly. point on. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #21

I don't understand BainsBane Dec 2013 #14

exactly mercuryblues Dec 2013 #15

For certain people, Assange is the star quarterback of their favorite football team nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #10

perfectly said. i posted elsewhere. it reminds me of the 67k people that cheered a possible rapist seabeyond Dec 2013 #13

I agree DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #18

It is exactly the same BainsBane Dec 2013 #29

imo, it is a case of he said, she said eilen Dec 2013 #27

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #32

I wrote an OP in GD BainsBane Dec 2013 #34

Why on earth was your post hidden? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #35

i re read that post. du has pretty much set itself up with jury so women canNOT even argue sexism, seabeyond Dec 2013 #36

Mommy, make those mean feminists go away!!! Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #37

and with this rigged system... they can. thanks adm... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #38

Yep. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #39

FWIW, jury results.... SidDithers Dec 2013 #47

and look how close. one more. i am shut up. how many posts do i get alerted on a day.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #48

Thanks Sid.. wow. I saw BainsBane's question in AKA.. Cha Dec 2013 #84

Yup. I wish that weren't true, but it's absolutely true. Recursion Dec 2013 #41

i have 6 hides. because someone presents the offensive. i challenge the offensive. how does one seabeyond Dec 2013 #42

And, not to put too fine a point on it, I present substantively the same arguments Recursion Dec 2013 #43

absolutely. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #44

women are dropping like flies. this has become an hostile environment for the women that speak out. seabeyond Dec 2013 #45

Thank you, thank you, thank you! nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #49

Right, it must've been sexism for a jury to hide "fuck you, darlin' nt" and "fuck you. and i will Electric Monk Dec 2013 #61

"Jurors, please note context." xulamaude Dec 2013 #64

i was pointing out the poster said screw off. screw off = fuck you. so no, that was not seabeyond Dec 2013 #68

That's a stinking lie. polly7 Dec 2013 #70

scew off = fuck you. no polly. it is not a lie. now.... go away. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #71

It absolutely was a lie. polly7 Dec 2013 #72

the lie is saying. screw off = fuck you, is saying fuck you, to you. as the alerter did. seabeyond Dec 2013 #73

I never told 'you' to screw off. polly7 Dec 2013 #74

who reads what you write. look at this post. it is so full of trash talk why would i bother. seabeyond Dec 2013 #75

I don't give aflying fuck how you read it. polly7 Dec 2013 #76

see. again, polly.... first sentence in title. you start. no readie..... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #79

It is indeed quite toxic. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #78

Agreed. xulamaude Dec 2013 #80

did i show you my latest FB sheldon cooper. i love the dude. seabeyond Dec 2013 #81

I love Sheldon. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #82

lol. and mama. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #83

"Either you're that stupid, or you purposefully misunderstood to make yourself the poor victim..." xulamaude Dec 2013 #77

I have no clue ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #46

shameful hide. grantcart Dec 2013 #50

Why the fuck was that post hidden? Recursion Dec 2013 #40

I have no idea, but that was as bad a hide as I have ever seen. mtnester Dec 2013 #69