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mzteris

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20. what we should preach is

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2014, 01:29 PM

Jan 2014

DON"T RAPE.

If you can unequivocally say that every person in a porn film is there completely voluntarily - free from financial need, free from drugs, free from abuse (current or past), free from coercion, free from a past history (for whatever reason you want to say) that has placed the person in the position - either emotionally, mentally, physically, or financially that has them believing (or want to believe) that hey - what a great career choice THIS is! I'm SOOOOOOOOO lucky to get to do "this" every day.

Have you EVER heard anyone say, I want to be a porn star when I grow up? Any parent want that for their child? Any person anywhere on the planet (who doesn't have their OWN issues) say - wow, I sure hope "that little girl" or "that little boy" gets to grow up to be a PORN star. Wouldn't that just be swell? What a great opportunity for them!

Have you? Can you? Really.

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Hey "Radical" Feminists [View all] arely staircase Jan 2014 OP

Would you mind clarifying what you are asking forgiveness for? BainsBane Jan 2014 #1

being a smartass instead of trying to reach an understanding arely staircase Jan 2014 #2

I appreciate your apology BainsBane Jan 2014 #4

right wing and left wing opponents of pornography do indeed oppeose it for different reasons arely staircase Jan 2014 #6

Rec for "yes means yes" MadrasT Jan 2014 #3

thank you and yes the porn thing is complicated arely staircase Jan 2014 #5

I haven't seen anyone say that porn should be banned. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #18

+1 nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #37

Thanks for this. redqueen Jan 2014 #7

viva leticia arely staircase Jan 2014 #8

There's a pretty well defined meaning behind "rape culture." Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #9

no there really isnt arely staircase Jan 2014 #10

I'm not super into the whole "agree to disagree" theme on this subject. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #11

it is a concept upon which arely staircase Jan 2014 #12

You do a lot of academic level reading in feminist theory? Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #13

oh mother arely staircase Jan 2014 #14

No agreement at all? Really? redqueen Jan 2014 #15

That is true for virtually everything BainsBane Jan 2014 #16

Disagreement between people on the same side is ultimately healthy cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #17

re: "yes means yes" redqueen Jan 2014 #21

I don't recognize cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #23

Read them and cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #28

I'm so glad you enjoyed it! She really breaks it down well. redqueen Jan 2014 #29

She really did. I love it when people use theory to explain, like she did. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #30

I live in the UK... radtransfem Feb 2014 #34

Thank you for the clarification, Lisa! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #35

Aw, radtransfem Feb 2014 #36

And I think many on the left often uses pro-porn stances as a means of escaping sexual shame ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #19

But even at best, it's not enough. The "prop" that is. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #38

what we should preach is mzteris Jan 2014 #20

Some will compare porn to other jobs as if they're analogous, redqueen Jan 2014 #22

I was reading about this yesterday cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #24

There's a lot of denial going on, for self-described liberals and progressives to be defending this redqueen Jan 2014 #25

There is no limit (no bottom) to human cruelty. We are a sick, sick species. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #39

I don't want to derail your post in the men's group noamnety Jan 2014 #26

Ugh, is that going on in that group? redqueen Jan 2014 #27

I'm at a loss for an appropriate answer. noamnety Jan 2014 #31

If it's a sincere attempt at honest discussion, the guilt by association bullshit needs to stop. redqueen Jan 2014 #32

I really respect and mzteris Jan 2014 #33