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freshwest

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10. I think Gun Safety would be good in one context, but not here, and this is why.
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 05:54 PM
Mar 2013

Registration, background checks, denial of licensing and gun possession, are not about gun safety. To say safety is to say different ways of operating guns.

Some people don't want to see the normalization of a 'gun in every hand' that ALEC, NRA, GOA are literally mandating in some areas. It infers guns are necessary to life, will inevitably proliferate, which is the Gungeon view. This may or may not be regarded as the anti-Gungeon group, but I don't believe we need to address on their SOP.

Education and community action are more useful to the safety of people who are not going to carry or use guns. This group doesn't need to go over those arguments, but that could be construed as surrender to that mentality.

Just putting that there for consideration, but I understand the desire to use different terms. If you feel it's necessary to fight the right wing memes about 'government tyranny and control' that might help. But I don't agree.

I ran into a thread yesterday about riots A poster implied turning in guns to the government was unwise as they are tyrants, apparently. We can't reason with that mindset, it has a permanent enemy, and that is government and so they want to keep their guns.

We are here saying the opposite, that government is the agency by which we as Democrats seek to have a safer society, not just operating guns with more safety. The term safety has appeal since the NRA had, and still has, classes in that before they went RWNJ.

I believe this mentality will never allow reasonable gun control for saving lives. In fact, every incident of gun violence feeds their desire for more weaponry. And military style weapons, as well.

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I second all three of those nominations Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Mar 2013 #2
I have no problem with Wyldwolf being a host Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #3
I like whomever it was that wrote/said graham4anything Mar 2013 #5
I have heard that before too, gun safety advocates is a better term Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #7
I think Gun Safety would be good in one context, but not here, and this is why. freshwest Mar 2013 #10
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, then get elected and prove it. Electric Monk Mar 2013 #11
Well, maybe we have some of them trolling DU, LOL! But that's not us. freshwest Mar 2013 #12
Yes, that's my point. nt Electric Monk Mar 2013 #13
I agree with much of what you say Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #14
Gun Safety sounds like we're teaching NRA Eddie Eagles Classes. ellisonz Mar 2013 #20
And that is the point, to change the debate so the NRA no longer has a monopoly on the language Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #21
That would just confuse people as a forum title. ellisonz Mar 2013 #22
I am not saying it should be the forum title Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #23
That seems pretty creepy to me. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #6
I can't, but second those and graham4anything's addition for hosts. freshwest Mar 2013 #4
to add graham4anything Mar 2013 #8
I appreciate the nomination. Robb Mar 2013 #9
This is why you would make a good host Robb Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #15
Hear, hear! +1,000. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #18
+1 ellisonz Mar 2013 #19
Let's just say trust with the NRA is just a four letter word graham4anything Mar 2013 #26
I'd support wyldwolf or Robb as head host SecularMotion Mar 2013 #16
That would make a good poll, imho. Head host: wyldwolf or Robb? Electric Monk Mar 2013 #25
All excellent nominations for Hosts, I would wholeheartedly support all of 'em! apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #17
WyldWolf should be a host BainsBane Mar 2013 #24
Kick n/t Tx4obama Mar 2013 #27
There is already an Orwellian attempt to redefine "pro gun control" as *actually* apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #28
yes. astute observation CreekDog Mar 2013 #30
I agree with your nominations. I would like to volunteer to assist as a host! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #29
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