US archbishop urges both sides to cool down at Vatican

[AtheistCrusader]

18. We understand and acknowledge.

That's not the problem.

Some of us were not quiet, were not patient, voiced frustration, and will not forget or forgive the effort and the journey required just to bring around a political party on this issue (among others). Government wields enormous power over the recognition, or protection of our civil liberties. Any entity with such power can reasonably expect backlash when it is not wielding that power in a humane or effective manner.

Some of us were met with political backlash here on this site, for pushing too hard, expecting too much, demanding change too quickly. Nihil sub sole novum.

This is hardly the first issue I have, in my personal life, had to expend effort and politically fight this particular church over. The fact that I'm an atheist is actually irrelevant. Keep that in mind, this isn't just about religion, this is politics. This church is a major player in the political realm, on many issues. Reproductive freedom. Marriage. End of life decisions. Millions of dollars in lobbying efforts. Lobbying for things that have negatively impacted my life, and I am not a catholic. Lawsuits that have stalled and delayed aspects of the ACA.

So, while you lament other posters not 'seeming to understand', please consider some of us take a much bigger picture, and longer term view of the church in question's political positions. Their policy on 'The Family' is just one issue, but it has enormous political implications for the civil rights of not just American citizens, but people worldwide.

Every day, people live, and they die. People with civil rights curtailed. People who will never know redress for things our government hasn't changed, that were lobbied for by members and elements of this church, based on church doctrine.

I don't have it in me to be patient. I believe it is unreasonable for you to expect me to. If that church existed in a bubble, separate from US and even world politics, that would be one thing. But that's not the world we live in. It has made itself a political entity in the US and elsewhere in the world. This is a politics site, predicated upon a political platform that is at odds with this church on many political issues.

That must needs give rise to friction between some of us, and the policies/doctrine/lobbying of said church.

Every minute a civil right is curtailed is a minute too long, and I, and others will not become inured to current conditions in hope of maybe sorta some change down the line someday based on nebulous hints and indicators today.

You can ask me to be patient, but I can say 'no', and I doubt there's a jury on DU that would take issue with me for it.