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Gaugamela

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23. I don't think I'm exaggerating. In fact, I think it's patently obvious given Israel's current
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 07:52 PM
Aug 8

trajectory and what Netanyahu and extremists in his government have said. I have no doubt that there are plans in reserve to raze the Al-Aqsa Mosque and build a new temple on the Temple Mount.

I suppose it's possible that Trump might change his stance on Gaza if he's desperate for a distraction from the Epstein scandal. But I doubt it, because he needs the evangelical support. He's not running again, and his brain will be useless mush in 2 years, but if he loses too much support he might get 25/4 by his own cabinet. However, what is an exaggeration is stating that "your exaggerations are no help", as though somehow I'm damaging the Palestinian cause, or the situation in Gaza. The point of this obvious exaggeration is to inflate the importance of your opinion.

From the polls I've seen three quarters of Americans disapprove of the Biden/Trump consensus on Gaza. If three quarters of the American people have no effect on Washington policy, it's a given that no post on DU will have any effect. In fact, I seriously doubt many posts here change anyone's mind about anything, even among Duers. In any case, your opinion is no more important than mine.

As for your question, of course Hamas bears responsibility. But when a society is reduced to abject poverty, as the Palestinians have been by the oppression of Israel, the rise of gangs, militias, and warlords is inevitable. The UN recognizes the right of an occupied people to fight against their oppressors. That doesn’t exonerate terrorism against civilians, but Israel has had Gaza in a stranglehold for decades, and enjoys the largesse of the US MIC, and when you get this kind of extreme asymmetry in warfare the oppressed will use any means at their disposal. Israel, on the other hand, a state that would not have been allowed to consolidate under the Geneva Conventions due to their seizure of Palestinian territories and natural resources, is committing war crimes.

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This would not be happening mcar Aug 7 #1
I don't know about that. It probably would have been more "dragged out". LeftInTX Aug 8 #14
Pres. Biden, VP Harris and their team mcar Aug 8 #16
Yep, hardly any pro-Palestinian protests. PSL is up to recruiting Democrats, so they are keeping it on the low-down. LeftInTX Aug 8 #18
Thanks for that info mcar Aug 8 #21
I hadn't heard of them electric_blue68 Aug 8 #24
So basically its a death march to the sea for Gaugamela Aug 7 #2
It's a terrible situation NoRethugFriends Aug 7 #4
Many on DU still have faith in American Exceptionalism. They cling to it like the right clings to their Gaugamela Aug 8 #5
I have no faith in American exceptionalism NoRethugFriends Aug 8 #8
"A terrible situation" is a pearl clutching understatement that pretends Gaugamela Aug 8 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author NoRethugFriends Aug 8 #12
Nope. NoRethugFriends Aug 8 #13
I don't think I'm exaggerating. In fact, I think it's patently obvious given Israel's current Gaugamela Aug 8 #23
Thank you for your clear and true statement Bread and Circuses Aug 8 #26
Trump wants it leveled so he can build Trump resorts Emile Aug 7 #3
Can't blame Trump for this one. AloeVera Aug 8 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Aug 8 #6
China JBTaurus83 Aug 8 #7
They already started with the West Bank :( -eom vanessa_ca Aug 8 #9
I'm old enough to remember when people laughed WarGamer Aug 8 #11
They aren't going to turn into into Dubai 2.0! LeftInTX Aug 8 #15
No... the point I'm making is... WarGamer Aug 8 #22
Thank you. Yes. AloeVera Aug 8 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Aug 8 #32
This will be Israel's Vietnam. Jacson6 Aug 8 #17
The U.K. opposes the planned takeover. As does Germany who will also stop sending military aid to Israel. Ping Tung Aug 8 #19
France also before Germany and the UK. brush Aug 8 #33
Monsters, all of them. milestogo Aug 8 #20
Good on The UK, and Germany. Don't think it'll help but it good for their moral standing. electric_blue68 Aug 8 #25
If it happens, it will be a land grab by the United States of America. The Pentagon is too chicken shit to RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 8 #29
Israel's Vietnam ? Jack Valentino Aug 8 #30
Since they will create a "combat zone" out of ALL of Gaza, Jack Valentino Aug 8 #31
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