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Irish_Dem

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20. I am trained as a scientist. You follow the data. Period.

Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:44 AM

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Data obviously points to Garland.

Only two possibilities.
Garland is incompetent or part of the crime.

Either way he is culpable.
Maybe not legally but morally and ethically.

He is on the list of damn rat bastards.

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Sure looks like Garland blew it.... [View all] Takket Yesterday OP

Has any one checked Garland's bank account during that time period? Irish_Dem Yesterday #1

you seriously think he was getting paid off for that? LymphocyteLover Yesterday #7

I seriously think some questions should be asked. Irish_Dem Yesterday #9

putting responsibility for the downfall of the country all on Garland is total bullshit LymphocyteLover Yesterday #16

Garland was in charge Chicagogrl1 Yesterday #17

I am trained as a scientist. You follow the data. Period. Irish_Dem Yesterday #20

bribery is possible (ie garland) rampartd Yesterday #21

who bribed him to do this? bigtree 21 hrs ago #84

Thanks for the facts that too many would Hassler 14 hrs ago #142

Thank you. Attackers got no defense. No facts. No sources. Just scapegoating and bitching. ancianita 11 hrs ago #155

Bribery... or blackmail... or threats... Shipwack 21 hrs ago #96

Completeness?? Puh-lease. For imagination's sake. Bad faith imaginings. ancianita 11 hrs ago #160

Garland's problem is one that has hurt our party for too long... Trueblue Texan Yesterday #42

We have been playing by The Marquess of Queensberry Rules 70sEraVet Yesterday #49

The right wing radicals have been playing by the rules of the abuser and the rapist Stacey Grove 23 hrs ago #54

Gaslighting is a technique of the abuser. yellow dahlia 12 hrs ago #150

I'm not sure the problems is PatSeg 21 hrs ago #108

Perhaps, But When You Know You Are Dealing With... ProfessorGAC 16 hrs ago #136

This is true PatSeg 12 hrs ago #146

Seems We're Very Close To The Same Page ProfessorGAC 2 hrs ago #167

Not the main one. The judiciary hurt the country. AG Garland was the solution, not part of the problem. ancianita 9 hrs ago #163

Saying Garland was bribed SCantiGOP 21 hrs ago #97

Saying he was bribed or people defending him? FHRRK 21 hrs ago #99

What about MTG turning over a new leaf? MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #129

"It all depends on who's ox is being gored." vanlassie 11 hrs ago #159

I'm trained as a scientist and follow the data too. But I must be following different data. LymphocyteLover 21 hrs ago #111

At the very least, he could have appointed Jack Smith a lot sooner Bluepinky 20 hrs ago #120

More than two possibilities. PufPuf23 16 hrs ago #137

He is the entire reason Mr.WeRP 20 hrs ago #117

bullshit LymphocyteLover 1 hr ago #169

Respectfully disagree Joinfortmill Yesterday #32

Garland stepped on his dick the whole time the greatest crime in US history was being planned. Irish_Dem Yesterday #34

Respectfully disagree. Joinfortmill Yesterday #36

Respectfully Agree. nt yaesu Yesterday #53

I respectfully agree! Emile 23 hrs ago #56

Is "stepped on his dick" typical language MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #130

Varies between sciences, mr715 14 hrs ago #144

So he alone caused the downfall of this country? sheshe2 11 hrs ago #154

We would be totally remiss if we did not ask questions. Irish_Dem Yesterday #13

One question; Why did President Biden stand by him for 4 years? MichMan Yesterday #29

Until recently Presidents didn't interfere with ongoing investigations Joinfortmill Yesterday #33

Because he is an institutionalist with "faith" in a broken system; Stacey Grove Yesterday #51

I agree Scubamatt 22 hrs ago #81

Biden's presidency was immersed within an actual coup started on Jan 6 Stacey Grove 21 hrs ago #92

Democratic leadership & the dems in general, CrispyQ 21 hrs ago #98

Agree Hey Joe 22 hrs ago #70

I totally disagree that his actions made sense. CrispyQ 21 hrs ago #86

Nah, he clearly wasn't right for the job. 2021 wasn't the time for a timid "if we do something it's political" bs themaguffin Yesterday #14

brazil's response to boisonero is the only way to deal with these guys rampartd Yesterday #23

absolutely themaguffin 20 hrs ago #114

This isn't a Law & Order episode. You're such a defeatist. Patience, grasshopper. Garland's got this. Scrivener7 Yesterday #2

OMG Skittles Yesterday #4

Oh, some still insist they were right all along, and Garland was actually totally speedy and effective. Scrivener7 Yesterday #5

Exactly. NewHendoLib Yesterday #12

Media still timidly, and with an abundance of caution, calls Fascists "authoritarians" goddammit. RVN VET71 Yesterday #31

The media should be hysterical with the nazi fascist language. Like they were with Biden's terrible debate. Clouds Passing 23 hrs ago #60

It is apparently "very concerning" to the media when an old Liberal shows his age RVN VET71 21 hrs ago #107

They formed the Garland Society. BannonsLiver 23 hrs ago #64

The endless patience lectures was a major red flag. Irish_Dem Yesterday #15

Might it have been kompromat? yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #151

You made me snicker. Solly Mack Yesterday #18

Sure and hell heard that a lot, just wait we got him. republianmushroom 22 hrs ago #80

To me, the biggest clue was when Schiff spoke out so forcefully early spooky3 21 hrs ago #102

to be fair Skittles Yesterday #3

And, once again, FUCK YOU MITCH MCCONNELL! Chasstev365 Yesterday #6

Yep. Garland should be sitting on SCOTUS! CaptainTruth Yesterday #28

This cannot be said enough! True Dough Yesterday #40

'Acting on a mix of principle and caution' Joinfortmill Yesterday #8

And now Trump is demanding indictments, claiming Garland weaponized the Justice Dept Martin Eden Yesterday #46

Of course. We all saw this - we all knew this Weak Sauce Merrick. NewHendoLib Yesterday #10

IMHO, being cautious in prosecuting a former POTUS, no matter how guilty they seem, is LymphocyteLover Yesterday #11

Downvote Ponietz Yesterday #19

It isn't reasonable when the former POTUS engineered an attempted violent coup to overthrow an election. Crunchy Frog 23 hrs ago #67

Garland is a republican. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #22

Or a centrist independent like Cuomo. Emile 23 hrs ago #57

Back in Texas a half century ago markodochartaigh 18 hrs ago #125

Wrong. Merrick Garland, born in Chicago, was a Democrat when he was a private citizen in Chicago. ancianita 12 hrs ago #148

Prove it. ancianita 12 hrs ago #149

There is plenty of fault to go around democrank Yesterday #24

Did you see the press conference where Garland calls out Bondi's DOJ for their illegal relationship w the White house? Intractable Yesterday #25

Why should he? MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #131

I agree that Garland should only do what his heart is into. Intractable 17 hrs ago #133

--and somebody needs a whole book to point this out? 3Hotdogs Yesterday #26

A lot of DUers here were bashed for the crime of criticizing Merrick Garland. gab13by13 Yesterday #30

Lest we forget, Eric Holder was also about as useless as my left nut -- no attempt to even investigate 3Hotdogs 20 hrs ago #119

Some still, apparently, do. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #88

I'm not a scientist, but I had math in grade school, gab13by13 Yesterday #27

The same thing Obama did, I imagine. Joinfortmill Yesterday #35

Good point, gab13by13 Yesterday #41

Garland was one of Obama's poorer choices. comradebillyboy 23 hrs ago #59

Not certain Obama would agree with your assessment. As far as I can tell Obama has not spoken on the matter. Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #62

Which says it all, really. BannonsLiver 22 hrs ago #72

Ha! Ok. Joinfortmill 22 hrs ago #75

I don't need Obama's approval to have an opinion. comradebillyboy 21 hrs ago #104

Ok. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #106

To me RoeVWade Yesterday #48

Also, didn't Joe have one or two pages. Krasnov had a boat load of boxes. Sorting that out must have been time consuming Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #63

I don't expect any President who is multitasking all day, to be the one primarily in charge of where he set down the RoeVWade 19 hrs ago #124

I believe the only reason Garland got BlueKota Yesterday #37

Impossible Orrex Yesterday #38

Amen. republianmushroom 21 hrs ago #87

Cue the Garland apologists choie Yesterday #39

there are no Garland apologists bigtree 22 hrs ago #69

.... BannonsLiver 22 hrs ago #77

Found one! Orrex 21 hrs ago #85

This article provides the evidence you pretend iemanja 11 hrs ago #153

Res ipse loquitur. choie 9 hrs ago #161

Res ipsa loquitur bigtree 9 hrs ago #162

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver 22 hrs ago #74

With the requisite wall o' words. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #89

I think wall of facts is more accurate. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #105

Yes. I imagine you do. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #109

I do Joinfortmill 20 hrs ago #118

It's obvious the haters are disrespectful MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #132

Words that are proportional to the election interference & massive coup attempt catastrophe by thousands. ancianita 8 hrs ago #165

And we could have had: AverageOldGuy Yesterday #43

Bet your bottom dollar he blew it. His inaction will never be overcome. Autumn Yesterday #44

Garland sandbagged it azureblue Yesterday #45

I have to admit to getting a twinge of something resembling PTSD when I read this title..... Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #47

Joe Biden was one of the greats. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #90

Garland was operating under a long outdated set of rules. Patton French Yesterday #50

Biden nominated the wrong guy. enough Yesterday #52

Which was a big mistake. BannonsLiver 21 hrs ago #91

Those with money/resources/a voice who have or had connections to power Stacey Grove 23 hrs ago #55

Maybe we should at least put part of the blame on THIS supreme court? bluestarone 23 hrs ago #58

Much of the Biden administration was apparently very risk-averse. Borogove 23 hrs ago #61

And we are all now paying the penalty Stacey Grove 23 hrs ago #65

There has been so many kacekwl 23 hrs ago #66

this is old and revisionist. Besides, Dilanian is a hack. bigtree 22 hrs ago #68

There's no amount of cut and paste that's going to salvage his legacy. BannonsLiver 22 hrs ago #79

That's the cheerleaders' Gish gallop Orrex 21 hrs ago #93

I'll never understand the fevered devotion. It's utterly bizarre. BannonsLiver 21 hrs ago #94

There are many, many words here. All the words. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #100

Big men with tears in their eyes said, "Sir, even the best words." Stacey Grove 20 hrs ago #116

Thank you for this. Very informative... Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #103

"Blew it" would imply a good faith effort Queso Delicioso 22 hrs ago #71

he could have stopped the investigation at any point bigtree 22 hrs ago #82

You forgot the last step Queso Delicioso 15 hrs ago #139

This will go down in history as the biggest mistake a Democratic President ever made in appointing a cabinet member. lees1975 22 hrs ago #73

I agree. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #156

I wonder how he feels about the DOJ now. Grumpy Old Guy 22 hrs ago #76

I don't know what Democrats didn't understand about insurrection bucolic_frolic 22 hrs ago #78

Agreed. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #157

They were scared of the orange convicts shadow. And many are still today. Hotler 22 hrs ago #83

where were they supposed to be 'scared" of? bigtree 21 hrs ago #95

Look- a game of "I told you so." Redleg 21 hrs ago #101

When they found the truck load of secret, classified documents in his bathroom questionseverything 19 hrs ago #122

You are probably correct. Redleg 19 hrs ago #123

Seriously! yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #158

I'm Not a Garland Fan, But Other Than This Particular Appalling Slow-walk I Think His Record Is Pretty Unimpeachable The Roux Comes First 21 hrs ago #110

Democrats had historic, multi-felony charges against their political opponent bigtree 21 hrs ago #112

Without Garland we never would have Jack Smith. nt in2herbs 21 hrs ago #113

Didn't Mueller popsdenver 16 hrs ago #138

Garland as AG is the only person with authority to appoint a special counsel. nt in2herbs 12 hrs ago #145

One possible fault. moondust 20 hrs ago #115

"Justice Delayed is Justice Denied" SleeplessinSoCal 20 hrs ago #121

Without coming down on the pro or anti markodochartaigh 18 hrs ago #126

The headline misspelled B-I-D-E-N. RockRaven 18 hrs ago #127

So, what time does Thursday Night Football start? MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #128

About as insightful as your other comments. Intractable 17 hrs ago #134

What position of power does Garland hold now? MineralMan 16 hrs ago #135

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905) Celerity 12 hrs ago #147

"Those who dwell on the past in despair make no progress" - MineralMan, Democratic Underground, 2025 MineralMan 9 min ago #170

He bears partial blame for Trump's being President now iemanja 9 hrs ago #164

So much for "justice is blind" Layzeebeaver 14 hrs ago #140

I just had to close my door, I was ranting about this so loudly BigmanPigman 14 hrs ago #141

Wrong choice! seta1950 14 hrs ago #143

We all knew that in 2021 . Garland and Smith were too cautious.... Bread and Circuses 11 hrs ago #152

Yup.nt jfz9580m 4 hrs ago #166

"justice delayed is justice denied" spanone 1 hr ago #168