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101. Look- a game of "I told you so."

Thu Oct 30, 2025, 12:32 PM

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Was I disappointed at the seemingly glacial pace of the investigations into Trump's wrongdoing? Yes, absolutely. I think they should have gone faster. What we are seeing here though is a case of hindsight bias and "I told you so" about this shit. Most of us probably had access to the same facts and information but simply arrived at different judgments about Garland's culpability. None of us, outside of those who work closely with Garland, really knew anything other than that which was publicly available. Why gloat over a lucky hunch? Even worse, why encourage the spreading of rumors that Garland must have been in the pay of Trump Inc.?

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Sure looks like Garland blew it.... [View all] Takket Yesterday OP

Has any one checked Garland's bank account during that time period? Irish_Dem Yesterday #1

you seriously think he was getting paid off for that? LymphocyteLover Yesterday #7

I seriously think some questions should be asked. Irish_Dem Yesterday #9

putting responsibility for the downfall of the country all on Garland is total bullshit LymphocyteLover Yesterday #16

Garland was in charge Chicagogrl1 Yesterday #17

I am trained as a scientist. You follow the data. Period. Irish_Dem Yesterday #20

bribery is possible (ie garland) rampartd Yesterday #21

who bribed him to do this? bigtree Yesterday #84

Thanks for the facts that too many would Hassler Yesterday #142

Thank you. Attackers got no defense. No facts. No sources. Just scapegoating and bitching. ancianita 22 hrs ago #155

Bribery... or blackmail... or threats... Shipwack Yesterday #96

Completeness?? Puh-lease. For imagination's sake. Bad faith imaginings. ancianita 21 hrs ago #160

Garland's problem is one that has hurt our party for too long... Trueblue Texan Yesterday #42

We have been playing by The Marquess of Queensberry Rules 70sEraVet Yesterday #49

The right wing radicals have been playing by the rules of the abuser and the rapist Stacey Grove Yesterday #54

Gaslighting is a technique of the abuser. yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #150

I'm not sure the problems is PatSeg Yesterday #108

Perhaps, But When You Know You Are Dealing With... ProfessorGAC Yesterday #136

This is true PatSeg 23 hrs ago #146

Seems We're Very Close To The Same Page ProfessorGAC 13 hrs ago #167

Yes, I think so PatSeg 10 hrs ago #171

Not the main one. The judiciary hurt the country. AG Garland was the solution, not part of the problem. ancianita 20 hrs ago #163

Saying Garland was bribed SCantiGOP Yesterday #97

Saying he was bribed or people defending him? FHRRK Yesterday #99

What about MTG turning over a new leaf? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #129

"It all depends on who's ox is being gored." vanlassie 22 hrs ago #159

I'm trained as a scientist and follow the data too. But I must be following different data. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #111

At the very least, he could have appointed Jack Smith a lot sooner Bluepinky Yesterday #120

More than two possibilities. PufPuf23 Yesterday #137

He is the entire reason Mr.WeRP Yesterday #117

bullshit LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #169

Respectfully disagree Joinfortmill Yesterday #32

Garland stepped on his dick the whole time the greatest crime in US history was being planned. Irish_Dem Yesterday #34

Respectfully disagree. Joinfortmill Yesterday #36

Respectfully Agree. nt yaesu Yesterday #53

I respectfully agree! Emile Yesterday #56

Is "stepped on his dick" typical language MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #130

Varies between sciences, mr715 Yesterday #144

So he alone caused the downfall of this country? sheshe2 22 hrs ago #154

We would be totally remiss if we did not ask questions. Irish_Dem Yesterday #13

One question; Why did President Biden stand by him for 4 years? MichMan Yesterday #29

Until recently Presidents didn't interfere with ongoing investigations Joinfortmill Yesterday #33

Because he is an institutionalist with "faith" in a broken system; Stacey Grove Yesterday #51

I agree Scubamatt Yesterday #81

Biden's presidency was immersed within an actual coup started on Jan 6 Stacey Grove Yesterday #92

Democratic leadership & the dems in general, CrispyQ Yesterday #98

Agree Hey Joe Yesterday #70

I totally disagree that his actions made sense. CrispyQ Yesterday #86

Nah, he clearly wasn't right for the job. 2021 wasn't the time for a timid "if we do something it's political" bs themaguffin Yesterday #14

brazil's response to boisonero is the only way to deal with these guys rampartd Yesterday #23

absolutely themaguffin Yesterday #114

This isn't a Law & Order episode. You're such a defeatist. Patience, grasshopper. Garland's got this. Scrivener7 Yesterday #2

OMG Skittles Yesterday #4

Oh, some still insist they were right all along, and Garland was actually totally speedy and effective. Scrivener7 Yesterday #5

Exactly. NewHendoLib Yesterday #12

Media still timidly, and with an abundance of caution, calls Fascists "authoritarians" goddammit. RVN VET71 Yesterday #31

The media should be hysterical with the nazi fascist language. Like they were with Biden's terrible debate. Clouds Passing Yesterday #60

It is apparently "very concerning" to the media when an old Liberal shows his age RVN VET71 Yesterday #107

They formed the Garland Society. BannonsLiver Yesterday #64

The endless patience lectures was a major red flag. Irish_Dem Yesterday #15

Might it have been kompromat? yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #151

You made me snicker. Solly Mack Yesterday #18

Sure and hell heard that a lot, just wait we got him. republianmushroom Yesterday #80

To me, the biggest clue was when Schiff spoke out so forcefully early spooky3 Yesterday #102

to be fair Skittles Yesterday #3

And, once again, FUCK YOU MITCH MCCONNELL! Chasstev365 Yesterday #6

Yep. Garland should be sitting on SCOTUS! CaptainTruth Yesterday #28

This cannot be said enough! True Dough Yesterday #40

'Acting on a mix of principle and caution' Joinfortmill Yesterday #8

And now Trump is demanding indictments, claiming Garland weaponized the Justice Dept Martin Eden Yesterday #46

Of course. We all saw this - we all knew this Weak Sauce Merrick. NewHendoLib Yesterday #10

IMHO, being cautious in prosecuting a former POTUS, no matter how guilty they seem, is LymphocyteLover Yesterday #11

Downvote Ponietz Yesterday #19

It isn't reasonable when the former POTUS engineered an attempted violent coup to overthrow an election. Crunchy Frog Yesterday #67

Garland is a republican. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #22

Or a centrist independent like Cuomo. Emile Yesterday #57

Back in Texas a half century ago markodochartaigh Yesterday #125

Wrong. Merrick Garland, born in Chicago, was a Democrat when he was a private citizen in Chicago. ancianita 22 hrs ago #148

Prove it. ancianita 22 hrs ago #149

That's the problem, he keeps his political leaning private. Emile 10 hrs ago #172

YOUR problem. You could look it up like I did and find out. You ancianita 7 hrs ago #173

You prove it and send me a link. I looked many times! Emile 5 hrs ago #177

There is plenty of fault to go around democrank Yesterday #24

Did you see the press conference where Garland calls out Bondi's DOJ for their illegal relationship w the White house? Intractable Yesterday #25

Why should he? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #131

I agree that Garland should only do what his heart is into. Intractable Yesterday #133

--and somebody needs a whole book to point this out? 3Hotdogs Yesterday #26

A lot of DUers here were bashed for the crime of criticizing Merrick Garland. gab13by13 Yesterday #30

Lest we forget, Eric Holder was also about as useless as my left nut -- no attempt to even investigate 3Hotdogs Yesterday #119

Some still, apparently, do. Scrivener7 Yesterday #88

I'm not a scientist, but I had math in grade school, gab13by13 Yesterday #27

The same thing Obama did, I imagine. Joinfortmill Yesterday #35

Good point, gab13by13 Yesterday #41

Garland was one of Obama's poorer choices. comradebillyboy Yesterday #59

Not certain Obama would agree with your assessment. As far as I can tell Obama has not spoken on the matter. Joinfortmill Yesterday #62

Which says it all, really. BannonsLiver Yesterday #72

Ha! Ok. Joinfortmill Yesterday #75

I don't need Obama's approval to have an opinion. comradebillyboy Yesterday #104

Ok. Joinfortmill Yesterday #106

To me RoeVWade Yesterday #48

Also, didn't Joe have one or two pages. Krasnov had a boat load of boxes. Sorting that out must have been time consuming Joinfortmill Yesterday #63

I don't expect any President who is multitasking all day, to be the one primarily in charge of where he set down the RoeVWade Yesterday #124

I believe the only reason Garland got BlueKota Yesterday #37

Impossible Orrex Yesterday #38

Amen. republianmushroom Yesterday #87

Cue the Garland apologists choie Yesterday #39

there are no Garland apologists bigtree Yesterday #69

.... BannonsLiver Yesterday #77

Found one! Orrex Yesterday #85

This article provides the evidence you pretend iemanja 22 hrs ago #153

Res ipse loquitur. choie 20 hrs ago #161

Res ipsa loquitur bigtree 20 hrs ago #162

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Yesterday #74

With the requisite wall o' words. Scrivener7 Yesterday #89

I think wall of facts is more accurate. Joinfortmill Yesterday #105

Yes. I imagine you do. Scrivener7 Yesterday #109

I do Joinfortmill Yesterday #118

It's obvious the haters are disrespectful MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #132

Words that are proportional to the election interference & massive coup attempt catastrophe by thousands. ancianita 19 hrs ago #165

And we could have had: AverageOldGuy Yesterday #43

Bet your bottom dollar he blew it. His inaction will never be overcome. Autumn Yesterday #44

Garland sandbagged it azureblue Yesterday #45

I have to admit to getting a twinge of something resembling PTSD when I read this title..... Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #47

Joe Biden was one of the greats. Joinfortmill Yesterday #90

Garland was operating under a long outdated set of rules. Patton French Yesterday #50

Biden nominated the wrong guy. enough Yesterday #52

Which was a big mistake. BannonsLiver Yesterday #91

Those with money/resources/a voice who have or had connections to power Stacey Grove Yesterday #55

Maybe we should at least put part of the blame on THIS supreme court? bluestarone Yesterday #58

Much of the Biden administration was apparently very risk-averse. Borogove Yesterday #61

And we are all now paying the penalty Stacey Grove Yesterday #65

There has been so many kacekwl Yesterday #66

this is old and revisionist. Besides, Dilanian is a hack. bigtree Yesterday #68

There's no amount of cut and paste that's going to salvage his legacy. BannonsLiver Yesterday #79

That's the cheerleaders' Gish gallop Orrex Yesterday #93

I'll never understand the fevered devotion. It's utterly bizarre. BannonsLiver Yesterday #94

There are many, many words here. All the words. Scrivener7 Yesterday #100

Big men with tears in their eyes said, "Sir, even the best words." Stacey Grove Yesterday #116

Thank you for this. Very informative... Joinfortmill Yesterday #103

"Blew it" would imply a good faith effort Queso Delicioso Yesterday #71

he could have stopped the investigation at any point bigtree Yesterday #82

You forgot the last step Queso Delicioso Yesterday #139

This will go down in history as the biggest mistake a Democratic President ever made in appointing a cabinet member. lees1975 Yesterday #73

I agree. yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #156

I wonder how he feels about the DOJ now. Grumpy Old Guy Yesterday #76

I don't know what Democrats didn't understand about insurrection bucolic_frolic Yesterday #78

Agreed. yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #157

They were scared of the orange convicts shadow. And many are still today. Hotler Yesterday #83

where were they supposed to be 'scared" of? bigtree Yesterday #95

Look- a game of "I told you so." Redleg Yesterday #101

When they found the truck load of secret, classified documents in his bathroom questionseverything Yesterday #122

You are probably correct. Redleg Yesterday #123

Seriously! yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #158

I'm Not a Garland Fan, But Other Than This Particular Appalling Slow-walk I Think His Record Is Pretty Unimpeachable The Roux Comes First Yesterday #110

Democrats had historic, multi-felony charges against their political opponent bigtree Yesterday #112

Without Garland we never would have Jack Smith. nt in2herbs Yesterday #113

Didn't Mueller popsdenver Yesterday #138

Garland as AG is the only person with authority to appoint a special counsel. nt in2herbs 23 hrs ago #145

One possible fault. moondust Yesterday #115

"Justice Delayed is Justice Denied" SleeplessinSoCal Yesterday #121

Without coming down on the pro or anti markodochartaigh Yesterday #126

The headline misspelled B-I-D-E-N. RockRaven Yesterday #127

So, what time does Thursday Night Football start? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #128

About as insightful as your other comments. Intractable Yesterday #134

What position of power does Garland hold now? MineralMan Yesterday #135

"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905) Celerity 22 hrs ago #147

"Those who dwell on the past in despair make no progress" - MineralMan, Democratic Underground, 2025 MineralMan 10 hrs ago #170

Indeed, a wise saying, that those who dwell on the past in despair make no progress... SWBTATTReg 7 hrs ago #174

He bears partial blame for Trump's being President now iemanja 19 hrs ago #164

So much for "justice is blind" Layzeebeaver Yesterday #140

I just had to close my door, I was ranting about this so loudly BigmanPigman Yesterday #141

Wrong choice! seta1950 Yesterday #143

We all knew that in 2021 . Garland and Smith were too cautious.... Bread and Circuses 22 hrs ago #152

Yup.nt jfz9580m 14 hrs ago #166

"justice delayed is justice denied" spanone 12 hrs ago #168

tell it to the judge bigtree 6 hrs ago #175

That's it! Emile 2 hrs ago #178

"Acting on a mix of principle and caution ..." TOTAL BULLSHIT Bluetus 6 hrs ago #176