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ancianita

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163. Not the main one. The judiciary hurt the country. AG Garland was the solution, not part of the problem.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 12:38 AM
7 hrs ago

There was no "EARLY." But there were

republican confirmation delays,
courts allowing frivolous motions,
courts hearing schedules,
courts appeals delays,
and the worst, SCOTUS delays


In review. For the TENTH time.

GARLAND was confirmed 2 MONTHS after Biden -- Republican holdup

Garland's #2 was confirmed by Congress 3 MONTHS after Biden -- Republican holdup;
then Lisa Monaco immediately operationalized the DOJ's eight major divisions.


Mar 10 2021: Merrick Garland confirmed as AG by Congress
Mar 11 2021: AG Garland assumes office

Apr 21 2021: Deputy AG Lisa O. Monaco assumes office

“Delay detractors" are off by over a year because the FBI IS the DOJ, and Garland's FBI began arrests on Jan 6 2021 and continued DOJ convictions until December 2024.

During the first months of FBI arrest actions, Garland was prosecuting new and outstanding cases, all while rebuilding the personnel of his assistant AG’s, deputies, and 8 Division heads. And meanwhile...

Republicans DELAY: STILL made Garland wait months for his division heads' confirmations;
SIX MONTHS after Biden inaugurated, July 2021: Republicans did not confirm Kenneth Polite to head the DOJ Criminal Division


10 months after he assumed office, January 6 2022 Garland stated:
“So far, we have
-- issued over 5,000 subpoenas and search warrants,
-- seized approximately 2,000 devices,
-- pored through over 20,000 hours of video footage, and
-- searched through an estimated 15 terabytes of data...
-- received over 300,000 tips from ordinary citizens, who have been our indispensable partners in this effort.”

Jan 2022 — Garland obtained
— 15 boxes found in the storage area
— the FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Maralago — of those
— 184 unique documents bearing classification markings, of those:
— 67 docs marked Confidential
— 92 docs marked Secret
— 25 docs marked Top Secret
markings reflected that docs were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls
used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security, including
HCS(Humint Control system),
FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act),
ORCON (originator controlled),
NORORN (could be NOFORN, no foreign national), AND
SI(Special Intelligence)


May 10 2022
— The first 100 documents marked as classified totaled over 700 pages [National Archives letter to Trump attorney, May 10, 2022]
May 11 2022:
— Garland convenes four DOJ Grand juries, one for Jan 6 convened until March 2024
— Grand Jury subpoenas Trump for documents

June 3 2022
— Trump lawyer hands over 40 boxes from Maralago storage room
— 38 docs marked Classified


June 3 2022: Garland's DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining classified govt documents in Maralago,
lawyers for Trump "certifying" that there were no more;
Trump stole 11,000 government docs, 300 classified docs — lawyers earlier handed over even more

July 22 2022: Garland's Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff, & Short's counsel Greg Jacob

August 8 2022
— FBI warrant search of Maralago
— 103 marked Classified
— 18 marked Top Secret

The law violated: —- 18 U.S.C. 793— Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.
Penalty: Fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
More on the indictability of stolen documents:
https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/

Sept 2 2022:
Garland's Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone,
a) one of the participants in WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told him Trump didn’t want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
and Patrick Philbin

Sept 15 2022: Garland's Grand Jury subpoenas Mark Meadows for testimony and documents
the month of Sept 2022: Garland's DOJ issued over 40 subpoenas to people close to Trump, some of whom are
— Bill Stepien, DT’s campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
— Sean Dollman, DT’s campaign CFO
— Ben Williamson, Deputy of Mark Meadows,
— Boris Epshteyn, Trump's lawyer -- phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
— Mike Lindell -- phone seized
— William Russell, WH special asst to Trump, THEN special aide to Trump in Mar-a-lago

Oct 6 2022: Garland's Grand jury calls back Greg Jacob
Oct 13 2022: Garland's Grand Jury calls back Marc Short, Pence's chief of staff

Nov 4 2022: classified docs found in Biden’s
-- Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
-- Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents


Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith (3 days after Trump announces his candidacy for 2024), who inherits all the Garland evidence, investigative and charging documents

By that very day, Nov 18 2022, Garland's DOJ had convicted more than 323 Jan 6 insurrectionists.

All of the above is what AG Merrick Garland did before Jack Smith.

Garland actions were the CORE contribution to the two Special Counsel investigations.
Garland handed off GARLAND's Classified Documents case and Election Interference case to Jack Smith on the day Smith was sworn in.


These will forever remain the facts of Garland's Jan 6 work during his first 20 months in office -- SIXTEEN Jan 6 convictions per week -- INCLUDING...

Garland secured historic convictions for seditious conspiracy (18 U.S. Code § 2384) against leaders of Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys

Stewart Rhodes: sentenced in May 2023 to 18 years in prison—one of the longest sentences handed down in connection with the Capitol attack.
Kelly Meggs: The leader of the Oath Keepers' Florida -- 12 years in prison.
Joseph Hackett and Roberto Minuta: Florida chapters -- 42 months, 5 years

Enrique Tarrio: The former chairman of the Proud Boys -- 21 years in prison.
Ethan Nordean: 18 years in prison.
Joseph Biggs: A prominent organizer and a former Infowars correspondent --17 years in prison.
Zachary Rehl: The president of the Philadelphia chapter -- 15 years in prison.



What REALLY stands out is the memory-free, fact-free and willful ignorance of DU's Garland attackers, especially of Garland's wisdom in choosing Jack Smith at the Hague as Special Counsel.

My own past defense of Merrick Garland was to remind attackers here that they need more and wider perspective, and less self indulgent, constant complaining and name calling when they didn't get the faster convictions they want because of the federal courts system we have.

History will remember the factual scope and magnitude of justice the Garland DOJ gave this country, and Garland himself as the most productive AG of the last three Democratic administrations.

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Has any one checked Garland's bank account during that time period? Irish_Dem Yesterday #1
you seriously think he was getting paid off for that? LymphocyteLover Yesterday #7
I seriously think some questions should be asked. Irish_Dem Yesterday #9
putting responsibility for the downfall of the country all on Garland is total bullshit LymphocyteLover Yesterday #16
Garland was in charge Chicagogrl1 Yesterday #17
I am trained as a scientist. You follow the data. Period. Irish_Dem Yesterday #20
bribery is possible (ie garland) rampartd 23 hrs ago #21
who bribed him to do this? bigtree 19 hrs ago #84
Thanks for the facts that too many would Hassler 12 hrs ago #142
Thank you. Attackers got no defense. No facts. No sources. Just scapegoating and bitching. ancianita 9 hrs ago #155
Bribery... or blackmail... or threats... Shipwack 19 hrs ago #96
Completeness?? Puh-lease. For imagination's sake. Bad faith imaginings. ancianita 8 hrs ago #160
Garland's problem is one that has hurt our party for too long... Trueblue Texan 22 hrs ago #42
We have been playing by The Marquess of Queensberry Rules 70sEraVet 21 hrs ago #49
The right wing radicals have been playing by the rules of the abuser and the rapist Stacey Grove 21 hrs ago #54
Gaslighting is a technique of the abuser. yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #150
I'm not sure the problems is PatSeg 18 hrs ago #108
Perhaps, But When You Know You Are Dealing With... ProfessorGAC 14 hrs ago #136
This is true PatSeg 10 hrs ago #146
Seems We're Very Close To The Same Page ProfessorGAC 17 min ago #167
Not the main one. The judiciary hurt the country. AG Garland was the solution, not part of the problem. ancianita 7 hrs ago #163
Saying Garland was bribed SCantiGOP 19 hrs ago #97
Saying he was bribed or people defending him? FHRRK 19 hrs ago #99
What about MTG turning over a new leaf? MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #129
"It all depends on who's ox is being gored." vanlassie 9 hrs ago #159
I'm trained as a scientist and follow the data too. But I must be following different data. LymphocyteLover 18 hrs ago #111
At the very least, he could have appointed Jack Smith a lot sooner Bluepinky 17 hrs ago #120
More than two possibilities. PufPuf23 14 hrs ago #137
He is the entire reason Mr.WeRP 18 hrs ago #117
Respectfully disagree Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #32
Garland stepped on his dick the whole time the greatest crime in US history was being planned. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #34
Respectfully disagree. Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #36
Respectfully Agree. nt yaesu 21 hrs ago #53
I respectfully agree! Emile 21 hrs ago #56
Is "stepped on his dick" typical language MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #130
Varies between sciences, mr715 11 hrs ago #144
So he alone caused the downfall of this country? sheshe2 9 hrs ago #154
We would be totally remiss if we did not ask questions. Irish_Dem Yesterday #13
One question; Why did President Biden stand by him for 4 years? MichMan 23 hrs ago #29
Until recently Presidents didn't interfere with ongoing investigations Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #33
Because he is an institutionalist with "faith" in a broken system; Stacey Grove 21 hrs ago #51
I agree Scubamatt 19 hrs ago #81
Biden's presidency was immersed within an actual coup started on Jan 6 Stacey Grove 19 hrs ago #92
Democratic leadership & the dems in general, CrispyQ 19 hrs ago #98
Agree Hey Joe 20 hrs ago #70
I totally disagree that his actions made sense. CrispyQ 19 hrs ago #86
Nah, he clearly wasn't right for the job. 2021 wasn't the time for a timid "if we do something it's political" bs themaguffin Yesterday #14
brazil's response to boisonero is the only way to deal with these guys rampartd 23 hrs ago #23
absolutely themaguffin 18 hrs ago #114
This isn't a Law & Order episode. You're such a defeatist. Patience, grasshopper. Garland's got this. Scrivener7 Yesterday #2
OMG Skittles Yesterday #4
Oh, some still insist they were right all along, and Garland was actually totally speedy and effective. Scrivener7 Yesterday #5
Exactly. NewHendoLib Yesterday #12
Media still timidly, and with an abundance of caution, calls Fascists "authoritarians" goddammit. RVN VET71 23 hrs ago #31
The media should be hysterical with the nazi fascist language. Like they were with Biden's terrible debate. Clouds Passing 21 hrs ago #60
It is apparently "very concerning" to the media when an old Liberal shows his age RVN VET71 18 hrs ago #107
They formed the Garland Society. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #64
The endless patience lectures was a major red flag. Irish_Dem Yesterday #15
Might it have been kompromat? yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #151
You made me snicker. Solly Mack Yesterday #18
Sure and hell heard that a lot, just wait we got him. republianmushroom 19 hrs ago #80
To me, the biggest clue was when Schiff spoke out so forcefully early spooky3 19 hrs ago #102
to be fair Skittles Yesterday #3
And, once again, FUCK YOU MITCH MCCONNELL! Chasstev365 Yesterday #6
Yep. Garland should be sitting on SCOTUS! CaptainTruth 23 hrs ago #28
This cannot be said enough! True Dough 22 hrs ago #40
'Acting on a mix of principle and caution' Joinfortmill Yesterday #8
And now Trump is demanding indictments, claiming Garland weaponized the Justice Dept Martin Eden 22 hrs ago #46
Of course. We all saw this - we all knew this Weak Sauce Merrick. NewHendoLib Yesterday #10
IMHO, being cautious in prosecuting a former POTUS, no matter how guilty they seem, is LymphocyteLover Yesterday #11
Downvote Ponietz Yesterday #19
It isn't reasonable when the former POTUS engineered an attempted violent coup to overthrow an election. Crunchy Frog 20 hrs ago #67
Garland is a republican. Blue Full Moon 23 hrs ago #22
Or a centrist independent like Cuomo. Emile 21 hrs ago #57
Back in Texas a half century ago markodochartaigh 16 hrs ago #125
Wrong. Merrick Garland, born in Chicago, was a Democrat when he was a private citizen in Chicago. ancianita 9 hrs ago #148
Prove it. ancianita 9 hrs ago #149
There is plenty of fault to go around democrank 23 hrs ago #24
Did you see the press conference where Garland calls out Bondi's DOJ for their illegal relationship w the White house? Intractable 23 hrs ago #25
Why should he? MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #131
I agree that Garland should only do what his heart is into. Intractable 14 hrs ago #133
--and somebody needs a whole book to point this out? 3Hotdogs 23 hrs ago #26
A lot of DUers here were bashed for the crime of criticizing Merrick Garland. gab13by13 23 hrs ago #30
Lest we forget, Eric Holder was also about as useless as my left nut -- no attempt to even investigate 3Hotdogs 17 hrs ago #119
Some still, apparently, do. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #88
I'm not a scientist, but I had math in grade school, gab13by13 23 hrs ago #27
The same thing Obama did, I imagine. Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #35
Good point, gab13by13 22 hrs ago #41
Garland was one of Obama's poorer choices. comradebillyboy 21 hrs ago #59
Not certain Obama would agree with your assessment. As far as I can tell Obama has not spoken on the matter. Joinfortmill 20 hrs ago #62
Which says it all, really. BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #72
Ha! Ok. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #75
I don't need Obama's approval to have an opinion. comradebillyboy 19 hrs ago #104
Ok. Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #106
To me RoeVWade 22 hrs ago #48
Also, didn't Joe have one or two pages. Krasnov had a boat load of boxes. Sorting that out must have been time consuming Joinfortmill 20 hrs ago #63
I don't expect any President who is multitasking all day, to be the one primarily in charge of where he set down the RoeVWade 16 hrs ago #124
I believe the only reason Garland got BlueKota 23 hrs ago #37
Impossible Orrex 23 hrs ago #38
Amen. republianmushroom 19 hrs ago #87
Cue the Garland apologists choie 22 hrs ago #39
there are no Garland apologists bigtree 20 hrs ago #69
.... BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #77
Found one! Orrex 19 hrs ago #85
This article provides the evidence you pretend iemanja 9 hrs ago #153
Res ipse loquitur. choie 7 hrs ago #161
Res ipsa loquitur bigtree 7 hrs ago #162
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #74
With the requisite wall o' words. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #89
I think wall of facts is more accurate. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #105
Yes. I imagine you do. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #109
I do Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #118
It's obvious the haters are disrespectful MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #132
Words that are proportional to the election interference & massive coup attempt catastrophe by thousands. ancianita 6 hrs ago #165
And we could have had: AverageOldGuy 22 hrs ago #43
Bet your bottom dollar he blew it. His inaction will never be overcome. Autumn 22 hrs ago #44
Garland sandbagged it azureblue 22 hrs ago #45
I have to admit to getting a twinge of something resembling PTSD when I read this title..... Ol Janx Spirit 22 hrs ago #47
Joe Biden was one of the greats. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #90
Garland was operating under a long outdated set of rules. Patton French 21 hrs ago #50
Biden nominated the wrong guy. enough 21 hrs ago #52
Which was a big mistake. BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #91
Those with money/resources/a voice who have or had connections to power Stacey Grove 21 hrs ago #55
Maybe we should at least put part of the blame on THIS supreme court? bluestarone 21 hrs ago #58
Much of the Biden administration was apparently very risk-averse. Borogove 21 hrs ago #61
And we are all now paying the penalty Stacey Grove 20 hrs ago #65
There has been so many kacekwl 20 hrs ago #66
this is old and revisionist. Besides, Dilanian is a hack. bigtree 20 hrs ago #68
There's no amount of cut and paste that's going to salvage his legacy. BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #79
That's the cheerleaders' Gish gallop Orrex 19 hrs ago #93
I'll never understand the fevered devotion. It's utterly bizarre. BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #94
There are many, many words here. All the words. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #100
Big men with tears in their eyes said, "Sir, even the best words." Stacey Grove 18 hrs ago #116
Thank you for this. Very informative... Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #103
"Blew it" would imply a good faith effort Queso Delicioso 19 hrs ago #71
he could have stopped the investigation at any point bigtree 19 hrs ago #82
You forgot the last step Queso Delicioso 13 hrs ago #139
This will go down in history as the biggest mistake a Democratic President ever made in appointing a cabinet member. lees1975 19 hrs ago #73
I agree. yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #156
I wonder how he feels about the DOJ now. Grumpy Old Guy 19 hrs ago #76
I don't know what Democrats didn't understand about insurrection bucolic_frolic 19 hrs ago #78
Agreed. yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #157
They were scared of the orange convicts shadow. And many are still today. Hotler 19 hrs ago #83
where were they supposed to be 'scared" of? bigtree 19 hrs ago #95
Look- a game of "I told you so." Redleg 19 hrs ago #101
When they found the truck load of secret, classified documents in his bathroom questionseverything 17 hrs ago #122
You are probably correct. Redleg 17 hrs ago #123
Seriously! yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #158
I'm Not a Garland Fan, But Other Than This Particular Appalling Slow-walk I Think His Record Is Pretty Unimpeachable The Roux Comes First 18 hrs ago #110
Democrats had historic, multi-felony charges against their political opponent bigtree 18 hrs ago #112
Without Garland we never would have Jack Smith. nt in2herbs 18 hrs ago #113
Didn't Mueller popsdenver 13 hrs ago #138
Garland as AG is the only person with authority to appoint a special counsel. nt in2herbs 10 hrs ago #145
One possible fault. moondust 18 hrs ago #115
"Justice Delayed is Justice Denied" SleeplessinSoCal 17 hrs ago #121
Without coming down on the pro or anti markodochartaigh 15 hrs ago #126
The headline misspelled B-I-D-E-N. RockRaven 15 hrs ago #127
So, what time does Thursday Night Football start? MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #128
About as insightful as your other comments. Intractable 14 hrs ago #134
What position of power does Garland hold now? MineralMan 14 hrs ago #135
"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905) Celerity 9 hrs ago #147
He bears partial blame for Trump's being President now iemanja 6 hrs ago #164
So much for "justice is blind" Layzeebeaver 12 hrs ago #140
I just had to close my door, I was ranting about this so loudly BigmanPigman 12 hrs ago #141
Wrong choice! seta1950 11 hrs ago #143
We all knew that in 2021 . Garland and Smith were too cautious.... Bread and Circuses 9 hrs ago #152
Yup.nt jfz9580m 1 hr ago #166
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