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Irish_Dem

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24. Articles states he WATCHED the murder. Entirely consistent with a mob boss.

Tue Dec 23, 2025, 01:23 PM

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Trump is a vicious brutal psychopath.
He would certainly endorse murder if it furthered his interests.

Keep in mind this is years ago and Trump is not always the brightest bulb
and had not perfected the mob boss skill set.

He has also been drug addicted and not aways thinking clearly.

Defending the indefensible is a hard sell.
A very hard sell.

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One of the Epstein documents is a victim's statement that when she was 13 and pregnant, Trump raped her [View all] Mr.WeRP Yesterday OP

I am betting this is the girl that Gloria Allred was representing who became too terrified/intimidated to continue hlthe2b Yesterday #1

Where are the pro-lifers now? This is what Trump has been projecting all along Mr.WeRP Yesterday #2

Not a chance. Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #78

This sounds a little to Enquirer to me. Pisces Yesterday #3

WTF? It's a victim statement given directly to the FBI Mr.WeRP Yesterday #5

The statute of limitations is five years... appmanga Yesterday #12

I think you should check again, gab13by13 Yesterday #18

I think you should re-read what I wrote... appmanga 22 hrs ago #62

You are assuming the victim is still alive and willing to cross Trump who controls the FBI/DoJ Mr.WeRP Yesterday #20

sure...they could come forward... Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #32

We only have Pam Bondi's word for that. Scrivener7 Yesterday #16

The subsequent investigation proving the claims were politically motivated would be themselves part of the so-called... Hugin 22 hrs ago #65

Are you saying that Trump is not capable of this kind of behavior? Irish_Dem Yesterday #8

It is very unlikely that Trump would intentionally Bluetus Yesterday #14

You don't Trump then or you are dishonest. Mr.WeRP Yesterday #21

Articles states he WATCHED the murder. Entirely consistent with a mob boss. Irish_Dem Yesterday #24

I dont believe Trump would do that. Bluetus 23 hrs ago #35

Sometimes things happen cannabis_flower 22 hrs ago #53

It could have happened that way Bluetus 21 hrs ago #86

By lady, are you referring to the 13 year old? Raven123 22 hrs ago #55

Don't put wordds in my mouth. Bluetus 21 hrs ago #88

You said it yourself in the title of your post "I don't believe Trump..." Raven123 20 hrs ago #101

Again, don't put words in my mouth, please. Bluetus 20 hrs ago #103

"I don't believe Trump would do that" equals "I don't believe the story" Raven123 19 hrs ago #108

Yeah, he makes other people take the blame for HIS CRIMES MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #60

I ask for the same kind of evidence that we would expect if Clinton, Obama or anyone else Bluetus 21 hrs ago #90

I get your reservations but never say never paleotn 21 hrs ago #75

Yes, it is possible. Very out of character. Bluetus 21 hrs ago #97

Totally possible. But also possible that they're trying to Dan Rather the whole story. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #102

Absolutely. I wouldn't put anything beyond those jackasses. paleotn 20 hrs ago #104

I'm really afraid of this. If they are successful, that will dilute this whole case. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #105

But he pretended to be someone else to talk about himself MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #77

Trump is a penny pinching tyrant Johonny 22 hrs ago #47

He gets a prurient thrill from death and harm. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #76

Piggy is not a "mob boss" MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #59

I have often said - he is capable of anything. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #87

I don't put anything past Trump, but trying to imagine him at the waters edge while an infant was drowned Pisces 23 hrs ago #29

I believe this happened on a yacht Bayard 22 hrs ago #70

This sounds like typical-trump to me. Torchlight Yesterday #17

Yes, an Enquirer kind of guy Lulu KC 23 hrs ago #28

Not believing victims aka victim blaming is so acceptable in our society... littlemissmartypants 23 hrs ago #40

It's not victim blaming. If I were presented with a victim saying this, I would support Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #45

Would you vote to convict if this was the only evidence presented? Kaleva 22 hrs ago #72

It wouldn't be the "only evidence presented" so to me... littlemissmartypants 21 hrs ago #74

There's other evidence you have that supports the claim? Kaleva 21 hrs ago #80

The woman or the child? littlemissmartypants 21 hrs ago #84

Like How They Printed That John Edwards Had A Baby With... ColoringFool 22 hrs ago #54

This is exactly the attitude Trump is counting on... regnaD kciN 19 hrs ago #107

Nailed it. MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #113

I had the same reaction Betty Boom 15 hrs ago #112

Is this why he hates Mexicans? kentuck Yesterday #4

no, that's because he's a stone cold racist eShirl Yesterday #6

Psychopaths like him don't care. ... littlemissmartypants 23 hrs ago #33

Yes. I hear the sadism in his voice constantly. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #89

Horrifying story but jmbar2 Yesterday #7

That's how this reads to me. I think you're right. Somewhere there'll be proof he was somewhere else Scrivener7 Yesterday #11

That's utter nonsense. The case ID on the document references a real case Mr.WeRP Yesterday #15

I hope you're right. But I guarantee that somewhere in these stories, and probably in the most Scrivener7 Yesterday #19

That's dangerous though... lame54 23 hrs ago #41

You're right, it is, but tell that to Dan Rather. And that story was true. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #46

Then the counter story should be out by now... lame54 22 hrs ago #48

We know their techniques, so of course we should watch out for the traps. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #94

Just because something is unspeakably horrible, doesn't mean TSF is incapable. Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #34

It's a good time to be cautious, rather than getting played. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #93

It's a dated document with a real case ID. Mr.WeRP Yesterday #13

Except that he loves to brag and as a psychopath sees little wrong in hurting others and breaking the law. littlemissmartypants 23 hrs ago #36

This corrupt "administration" is too stupid for that MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #64

I have my antennae up as well, regarding flooding the zone with bogus info yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #91

WTAF??? Disaffected Yesterday #9

Taken as a whole this doesn't seem plausible EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #27

The baby murder with onlookers has Satanic panic echoes. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #30

OMG. The media hasn't covered it? Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #37

Not believing victims aka victim blaming is so acceptable in our society... littlemissmartypants 23 hrs ago #39

Given we know a small number of rape claims are false, a small number should be disbelieved EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #57

Given that recent scholarly scientific research on propaganda reveals that... littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #68

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It's infuriating MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #67

It is. Unfortunately, I don't think it would make a difference, MBT. ... littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #71

Again, I'll repeat: if there's a victim, I'll believe her. However, so far there's only Pam Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #99

Yes of course some of the victims became pregnant. Irish_Dem Yesterday #10

Who among us hasn't raped a woman gab13by13 Yesterday #23

And he carefully planned it ahead of time. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #42

Another rarely mentioned factor in both the Carroll and Daniels cases is that they were practiced... Hugin 22 hrs ago #44

Of course this was not the first rape. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #56

"BoYs WiLl Be BoYs!" regnaD kciN 22 hrs ago #49

I don't doubt this for a minute, he would have got rid of the girl too. This reads false to me. If this young Pisces 23 hrs ago #31

who says she IS around? nt Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #38

Seriously! yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #96

There was another girl who Krasnov raped named Maria, gab13by13 Yesterday #22

This...when you look into it was withdrawn with major credibility issues Melon 23 hrs ago #25

Can you tell us more about that? Who withdrew it? And who said it has credibility issues? Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #50

I'm willing to believe every awful thing they said he did. They spread so much slander about Biden. Walleye 23 hrs ago #26

I know he has killed many children through policy, USAID, snap cuts, healthcare etc mahina 22 hrs ago #43

I do think Trump is capable of this. I don't think anything is too brutal for him to do. Walleye 22 hrs ago #61

Yes. Also, diluting a true, compelling simple and objectively factual message mahina 21 hrs ago #79

They discredited the entire Russia story because karynnj 19 hrs ago #106

Good example! mahina 18 hrs ago #110

The post on Reddit has been removed PatSeg 22 hrs ago #51

From what I can gather, that's because the source was not included on the reddit post Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #81

Yes, I was able to read it on the DOJ website PatSeg 21 hrs ago #83

It didn't quite meet the requirements of the law subreddit Mr.WeRP 21 hrs ago #92

This Goes A Long Way To Explain DJT's Insistence That .... ColoringFool 22 hrs ago #52

Thank you for finding that! Faux pas 22 hrs ago #58

The post was removed by the moderator. n/t demmiblue 22 hrs ago #63

See Post #81 Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #82

I've been watching Meidas to get info about Epstein allegations - TBF 22 hrs ago #66

Yes - capable of anything. yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #98

Yes. I would agree with that. It could be true. And it could not. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #100

Bondi hasn't proven herself to be credible, that's for sure! nt TBF 16 hrs ago #111

Probably one of many relayerbob 22 hrs ago #69

If the girl was 13 and pregnant, Bayard 22 hrs ago #73

I am seriously shocked so many here would dismiss this Mr.WeRP 19 hrs ago #109

Damn cruel psychotic waste of oxygen. 😡 Dave Bowman 21 hrs ago #85