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Tue Jan 20, 2026, 05:45 PM Tuesday

Newsom didn't do anyone any favors by blowing up at the European leaders [View all]


...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the governor's ranting contained more heat than light.

Newsom torches ‘pathetic’ European leaders for bowing to Trump: ‘I should’ve brought kneepads’

California Governor Gavin Newsom tore into “pathetic” and “embarrassing” European allies for how they are responding to U.S. President Donald Trump, accusing them of “rolling over” as the White House upends NATO in its pursuit of control of Greenland from Denmark.

“I can’t take this complicity. People rolling over. I should have bought a bunch of knee pads for all the world leaders,” Newsom, a Democrat and potential candidate for the presidency in 2028, told reporters at the World Economic Forum‘s annual gathering in Davos.

He added: “I hope people understand how pathetic they look on the world stage, at least from an American perspective. It’s embarrassing.”

“I’ve seen this in the United States, the supine Congress. It’s time to stand tall and strong, stand united”.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gavin-newsom-european-leaders-pathetic-171337182.html


“This guy is a wrecking ball. I hope people are waking up to what we are dealing with. This is code red,” Newsom continued.

“You guys are still playing by an old set of rules, everybody in the globe is, with this guy. He’s unmoored. It’s the law of the jungle. It’s the rule of Don, and I hope it’s dawning on the world what we’re up against. This is serious. This guy is—he’s not mad, he’s very intentional. But he’s unmoored and he’s unhinged.”

The Democrat also accused leaders of saying different things in public and in private about Trump. “Everybody’s talking behind his back. They’re laughing at him. Meanwhile, they’re sucking up to him. It’s embarrassing…This is not diplomacy, it’s stupidity,” Newsom said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gavin-newsom-slams-pathetic-us-allies-over-donald-trump/ar-AA1UA51y



...while it's nice to see someone standing up to Trump, it has to be bemusing for the European leaders to see the governor bashing them for something that is rapidly spinning out of control in his own country, ignoring their own individual interests are just as rapidly turning away from America because of our voters' insistence in again elevating Trump back onto the world stage.

It's not the Europeans' responsibility to bring Trump to heel; not as much as they are charged with looking after their own interests; and now they're turning away from decades of cooperation on concerns which the U.S. is rapidly abandoning support for, both materially and rhetorically under Trump.

They can reasonably ask where they can rely on America right now for anything other than the inevitability of some arbitrary punitive action directed at them at the point of Trump's latest pique.

They don't need to growl at Trump or beat their chests like teenagers in a school fight. They have democracies which will determine whether negotiation or fighting makes sense to their interests.

And certainly on this world stage, at this world economic summit, cooperation between nations is meant to take precedent over the internecine squabbling that Trump would like everyone else to descend into while picking over the rubble he's caused.

Gov. Newsom should be careful imagining the Europeans don't know how to take care of themselves in the face of autocratic figureheads pushing their weight around. Their people know how to take to the streets to demand the changes they want; less so here in the States, albeit learning.

But more than that obviation, Europeans must have had their fill of Americans talking down to them right now, their countryfolk now at the mercy of political outcomes which Newsom and others in America have failed to effectively manage among our own people.

Personally, I've long had my fill of macho politics that substitutes volume for effect or substance.

If Newsom wants Europeans to do something more to confront Trump; if he has specific ideas beyond being 'tall and strong;' he should spell those out more succinctly than the full-throated deriding he offered them today for practicing diplomacy at a diplomatic forum - do the work of diplomacy with our European allies so that we can all as he admonished, "stand united."
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Yeah he needs to be more weak and ineffectual like Merrick Garland. BannonsLiver Tuesday #1
Yup, par for the course LR3 Tuesday #3
Um, no Dave says Wednesday #50
You are absolutely right. sheshe2 Tuesday #2
Appeasement didn't work out too well for Europe in the 1930's newdeal2 Tuesday #4
I was disturbed when I heard him earlier today. brer cat Tuesday #5
He didn't "blow up" MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #6
So he didn't say... TheProle Tuesday #12
Newsom is right Skittles Tuesday #15
That wasn't my question to the previous poster, but noted. TheProle Tuesday #16
He was addressing the press. MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #94
Not arguing anymore TheProle Friday #102
Mark Carney appears to be the only leader who truly gets it peggysue2 Thursday #68
Right on time. Kingofalldems Tuesday #33
What do you mean? MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #93
+ 1. If I were casting a remake of The Darkest Hour starring DUers I know who would be playing Lord Halifax. BannonsLiver Tuesday #13
Thanks for the video IcyPeas Tuesday #20
You're welcome, and I agree with you. MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #95
i'm a considered writer, not a kneejerk poster, and I always make the effort to be clear bigtree Tuesday #23
European parliaments have frank discussion, at cachukis Tuesday #28
Nothing personal MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #96
He did not creon Wednesday #53
If he is planning to Greg_In_SF Tuesday #7
Right....because the other party is Bettie Thursday #72
You're right Greg_In_SF Thursday #85
There is nothing remotely MAGAt about Gavin Newsom MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #97
Post removed Post removed Friday #100
Quite the ironic assertions Torchlight Friday #101
Non-ugly American Starbeach Tuesday #8
not even wrong creon Tuesday #9
THANK YOU Skittles Tuesday #18
We are always in transition. Trump has spoiled the cachukis Tuesday #10
Agree IcyPeas Tuesday #22
DURec leftstreet Tuesday #11
Sorry he's absolutely right fujiyamasan Tuesday #14
I would say he is right. It's a fucking embarassment from all corners. Not excusing any US politician. boston bean Tuesday #17
Totally agree with you. nt Raine Tuesday #19
Newsom is right. And Europe consistently looks weak. Renew Deal Tuesday #21
Europe looks weak because they're dealing with internal issues haele Tuesday #30
What do you mean by TimeToGo Tuesday #35
Sorry, typing on my phone, will correct the stupid haele Tuesday #36
😎 We've all been there TimeToGo Tuesday #40
I couldn't agree more Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #24
He's right though. GoodRaisin Tuesday #25
Maybe. I think that they get it. themaguffin Tuesday #26
I'm on Newsom's side here. The entire world needs to be more vocal in their stances against Trump. LonePirate Tuesday #27
Hell no. TIME TO KICK SOME ASS. Irish_Dem Tuesday #29
"Nice guys finish last." Leo Durocher anciano Tuesday #31
..in bed. Qutzupalotl Wednesday #58
I voted for him for governor but I'd rather have someone else as President kimbutgar Tuesday #32
I support Newsom's remarks and attitude 100%.. Escape Tuesday #34
Wondering what European leaders think of America voters. Emile Tuesday #37
I find nothing wrong with what he said. nt Chalco Tuesday #38
Newsom is right about the complicity of the world's superrich. He's doing his part. I don't see any other Democratic ancianita Tuesday #39
how is this fellow the 'Democratic cause? ' bigtree Wednesday #46
Thanks for your usual thoughtful post. Much appreciated. I want to point out that he is frustrated, because ancianita Wednesday #48
Nothing worse than mealy mouthed apologists & critics of courage NotHardly Tuesday #41
Not a good look for Newsom. OGBuzz Tuesday #42
Hmmm GusBob Wednesday #43
Would giving specifics be viewed as treason? n/t BadgerKid Wednesday #44
Meh, when you lead an economy as large as California's, you get to say certain things JonAndKatePlusABird Wednesday #45
I doubt they cared at this point beyond bemusement bigtree Wednesday #47
Sorry, I'm sick and tired of meek capitulation. Arthur_Frain Wednesday #49
Well, The High Road markodochartaigh Wednesday #51
our votes for Obama kept the Democrats in control of the WH for EIGHT YEARS bigtree Thursday #62
Yes--I felt it was a bit over the top with the "knee pads" and "pathetic" being thrown around crimycarny Wednesday #52
Newsom was right on substance but still made a strategic error. tritsofme Wednesday #54
I like the fire Sugarcoated Wednesday #55
No one whose judgment included marrying Kimberley Guilfoyle DJ Synikus Makisimus Wednesday #56
I disagree with some points, agree with others, and just plain don't markodochartaigh Wednesday #57
I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders Jack Valentino Wednesday #59
so bigtree Thursday #60
'...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the OP's response contained more heat than light' Jack Valentino Thursday #89
it would be a different discussion if it centered on what I wrote in the op bigtree Thursday #92
Thank you, amigo.... My main fault on this forum has to be Jack Valentino Thursday #98
I stand with Gavin Blues Heron Thursday #61
👍 👏 💯 🗣🔊 ColoringFool Thursday #63
why is he attacking the Europeans? bigtree Thursday #65
Did you read what he said? It's a wake up call. Blues Heron Thursday #66
did I read it? bigtree Thursday #67
Your overreacting , this is 2026- there is a new, less uptight electorate out there, the fuddy duddy era is over Blues Heron Thursday #70
you're bigtree Thursday #71
This thread sure went south on you pretty quickly. BannonsLiver Thursday #73
I think Newsome was absolutely right. That is the problem with almost all politicians and so called leaders, Autumn Thursday #64
We need more Gavin Newsoms and less tone police Renew Deal Thursday #69
Hmmm, disinvesting in the US FHRRK Thursday #74
no, what you wrote is specious bigtree Thursday #75
Let me give some general advice FHRRK Thursday #81
it's already assumed in this format that respondants are positing their own opinions bigtree Thursday #82
Again, IMO, people are looking for fighters FHRRK Thursday #83
do you know what specious means? superficially plausible, but actually wrong bigtree Thursday #84
For the love of all things holy FHRRK Thursday #86
let me put it more plainly bigtree Thursday #87
"I lied..." FHRRK Thursday #88
did you tell the truth? bigtree Thursday #90
Whew! FHRRK Thursday #91
Bullshit. Newsom was brilliant. He's positioned himself as the anti-trump. Euro leaders want that. Sibelius Fan Thursday #76
he also positioned himself as anti-European leader bigtree Thursday #79
at least he's trying - which is a lot more than so many other leaders samsingh Thursday #77
but that's not the issue I'm raising here bigtree Thursday #78
Newsom really fucked over the elderly and disabled CountAllVotes Thursday #80
Recommended. H2O Man Thursday #99
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Friday #103
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