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75. no, what you wrote is specious
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:43 PM
2 hrs ago

...and not evidenced in anything.

The hubris in imagining that Europeans needed bucking up by the California governor to confront the demon who was spawned in his own country; the threat that Americans have yet to hinder in any significant way, despite the governor standing 'tall and strong.'

It's always interesting to see how many people think problems can be solved by barking in public at them. I watched with bemusement at men lining up behind Kamala Harris who thought that raising their voice until they were hoarse was effectively communicating.

If he wants something from Europeans, anything, the way to accomplish that is how countless leaders have done successfully for over 80 years of alliances to keep the peace - by diplomacy.

Less of the predictable insults from Americans touting our supposed superiority over everything by virtue of our size, and more respect for the prerogative of nations to set their own course apart from what a California governor might think is best for them, for example..

Is there just this one gear with Newsom, his pique, or does he know what it means to influence and lead those who aren't in his immediate camp?

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Yeah he needs to be more weak and ineffectual like Merrick Garland. BannonsLiver Tuesday #1
Yup, par for the course LR3 Tuesday #3
Um, no Dave says 20 hrs ago #50
You are absolutely right. sheshe2 Tuesday #2
Appeasement didn't work out too well for Europe in the 1930's newdeal2 Tuesday #4
I was disturbed when I heard him earlier today. brer cat Tuesday #5
He didn't "blow up" MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #6
So he didn't say... TheProle Tuesday #12
Newsom is right Skittles Tuesday #15
That wasn't my question to the previous poster, but noted. TheProle Tuesday #16
Mark Carney appears to be the only leader who truly gets it peggysue2 5 hrs ago #68
Right on time. Kingofalldems Tuesday #33
+ 1. If I were casting a remake of The Darkest Hour starring DUers I know who would be playing Lord Halifax. BannonsLiver Tuesday #13
Thanks for the video IcyPeas Tuesday #20
i'm a considered writer, not a kneejerk poster, and I always make the effort to be clear bigtree Tuesday #23
European parliaments have frank discussion, at cachukis Tuesday #28
He did not creon 19 hrs ago #53
If he is planning to Greg_In_SF Tuesday #7
Right....because the other party is Bettie 3 hrs ago #72
Non-ugly American Starbeach Tuesday #8
not even wrong creon Tuesday #9
THANK YOU Skittles Tuesday #18
We are always in transition. Trump has spoiled the cachukis Tuesday #10
Agree IcyPeas Tuesday #22
DURec leftstreet Tuesday #11
Sorry he's absolutely right fujiyamasan Tuesday #14
I would say he is right. It's a fucking embarassment from all corners. Not excusing any US politician. boston bean Tuesday #17
Totally agree with you. nt Raine Tuesday #19
Newsom is right. And Europe consistently looks weak. Renew Deal Tuesday #21
Europe looks weak because they're dealing with internal issues haele Tuesday #30
What do you mean by TimeToGo Tuesday #35
Sorry, typing on my phone, will correct the stupid haele Tuesday #36
😎 We've all been there TimeToGo Tuesday #40
I couldn't agree more Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #24
He's right though. GoodRaisin Tuesday #25
Maybe. I think that they get it. themaguffin Tuesday #26
I'm on Newsom's side here. The entire world needs to be more vocal in their stances against Trump. LonePirate Tuesday #27
Hell no. TIME TO KICK SOME ASS. Irish_Dem Tuesday #29
"Nice guys finish last." Leo Durocher anciano Tuesday #31
..in bed. Qutzupalotl 19 hrs ago #58
I voted for him for governor but I'd rather have someone else as President kimbutgar Tuesday #32
I support Newsom's remarks and attitude 100%.. Escape Tuesday #34
Wondering what European leaders think of America voters. Emile Tuesday #37
I find nothing wrong with what he said. nt Chalco Tuesday #38
Newsom is right about the complicity of the world's superrich. He's doing his part. I don't see any other Democratic ancianita Tuesday #39
how is this fellow the 'Democratic cause? ' bigtree Yesterday #46
Thanks for your usual thoughtful post. Much appreciated. I want to point out that he is frustrated, because ancianita 21 hrs ago #48
Nothing worse than mealy mouthed apologists & critics of courage NotHardly Tuesday #41
Not a good look for Newsom. OGBuzz Tuesday #42
Hmmm GusBob Yesterday #43
Would giving specifics be viewed as treason? n/t BadgerKid Yesterday #44
Meh, when you lead an economy as large as California's, you get to say certain things JonAndKatePlusABird Yesterday #45
I doubt they cared at this point beyond bemusement bigtree Yesterday #47
Sorry, I'm sick and tired of meek capitulation. Arthur_Frain 20 hrs ago #49
Well, The High Road markodochartaigh 20 hrs ago #51
our votes for Obama kept the Democrats in control of the WH for EIGHT YEARS bigtree 8 hrs ago #62
Yes--I felt it was a bit over the top with the "knee pads" and "pathetic" being thrown around crimycarny 19 hrs ago #52
Newsom was right on substance but still made a strategic error. tritsofme 19 hrs ago #54
I like the fire Sugarcoated 19 hrs ago #55
No one whose judgment included marrying Kimberley Guilfoyle DJ Synikus Makisimus 19 hrs ago #56
I disagree with some points, agree with others, and just plain don't markodochartaigh 19 hrs ago #57
I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #59
so bigtree 15 hrs ago #60
I stand with Gavin Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #61
👍 👏 💯 🗣🔊 ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #63
why is he attacking the Europeans? bigtree 7 hrs ago #65
Did you read what he said? It's a wake up call. Blues Heron 7 hrs ago #66
did I read it? bigtree 6 hrs ago #67
Your overreacting , this is 2026- there is a new, less uptight electorate out there, the fuddy duddy era is over Blues Heron 3 hrs ago #70
you're bigtree 3 hrs ago #71
This thread sure went south on you pretty quickly. BannonsLiver 3 hrs ago #73
I think Newsome was absolutely right. That is the problem with almost all politicians and so called leaders, Autumn 7 hrs ago #64
We need more Gavin Newsoms and less tone police Renew Deal 5 hrs ago #69
Hmmm, disinvesting in the US FHRRK 2 hrs ago #74
no, what you wrote is specious bigtree 2 hrs ago #75
Bullshit. Newsom was brilliant. He's positioned himself as the anti-trump. Euro leaders want that. Sibelius Fan 2 hrs ago #76
he also positioned himself as anti-European leader bigtree 1 hr ago #79
at least he's trying - which is a lot more than so many other leaders samsingh 1 hr ago #77
but that's not the issue I'm raising here bigtree 1 hr ago #78
Newsom really fucked over the elderly and disabled CountAllVotes 1 hr ago #80
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