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In reply to the discussion: Newsom didn't do anyone any favors by blowing up at the European leaders [View all]bigtree
(93,532 posts)92. it would be a different discussion if it centered on what I wrote in the op
...and not on defending Newsom as a political figure which I have absolutely no objection to, and actually support his efforts, so far.
But I may have been naive in being deliberately obtuse to presidential politics to think I could have a discussion about American politicians and other U.S. leaders and the way they talk to the Europeans. I couldn't have been more explanatory, though.
I get that people see what they want, but it's been mostly unsatisfying to my effort in the op, to defend myself against the absurd (for anyone that knows me) that I threaten Newsom politically by criticizing him, or threaten something Democratic as some posters intimated.
"I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders..."
Does this really make sense to you three years out from an election where there is bound to be an expansive field of candidates? How will we ever distinguish between them if we don't express our disagreements?
And, hell, I was nice enough. I would think that alone deserved some attention to the subject (Newsom or any other American pol's attitude and approach to communicating their differences wth our allies?
Here I was thinking the substance of what I wrote was just ignored because it may not be in folks' wheelhouse. I can see now that most of the criticism came down in defense of something that I actually agree with, his political viability.
I don't think posting here is campaigning, but I've been here since this forum concerned itself with much more than presidential politics, and posters challenged each other with ideas instead of their politics.
I can do both, but I prefer the latter.
Now, about liking me and the rest. I appreciate that, sincerely. I take the time to respond to you because of my regard for you, as well. I will endeavor to take more care to depersonalize my responses. It's how I'd like to be responded to, so that just makes sense.
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Newsom didn't do anyone any favors by blowing up at the European leaders [View all]
bigtree
Tuesday
OP
+ 1. If I were casting a remake of The Darkest Hour starring DUers I know who would be playing Lord Halifax.
BannonsLiver
Tuesday
#13
i'm a considered writer, not a kneejerk poster, and I always make the effort to be clear
bigtree
Tuesday
#23
I would say he is right. It's a fucking embarassment from all corners. Not excusing any US politician.
boston bean
Tuesday
#17
I'm on Newsom's side here. The entire world needs to be more vocal in their stances against Trump.
LonePirate
Tuesday
#27
Newsom is right about the complicity of the world's superrich. He's doing his part. I don't see any other Democratic
ancianita
Tuesday
#39
Thanks for your usual thoughtful post. Much appreciated. I want to point out that he is frustrated, because
ancianita
Wednesday
#48
Meh, when you lead an economy as large as California's, you get to say certain things
JonAndKatePlusABird
Wednesday
#45
Yes--I felt it was a bit over the top with the "knee pads" and "pathetic" being thrown around
crimycarny
Wednesday
#52
I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders
Jack Valentino
Wednesday
#59
'...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the OP's response contained more heat than light'
Jack Valentino
Yesterday
#89
Your overreacting , this is 2026- there is a new, less uptight electorate out there, the fuddy duddy era is over
Blues Heron
Yesterday
#70
I think Newsome was absolutely right. That is the problem with almost all politicians and so called leaders,
Autumn
Yesterday
#64
it's already assumed in this format that respondants are positing their own opinions
bigtree
Yesterday
#82
Bullshit. Newsom was brilliant. He's positioned himself as the anti-trump. Euro leaders want that.
Sibelius Fan
Yesterday
#76