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MorbidButterflyTat

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96. Nothing personal

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:04 PM

10 hrs ago

I've seen too many knee jerk reactions on DU to things Democrats supposedly did or didn't, say or do.

Newsom didn't blow up at European leaders. He was speaking clearly to the press.

I do appreciate your posts, and most times I agree with you. I just don't this time.

Peace.

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Newsom didn't do anyone any favors by blowing up at the European leaders [View all] bigtree Tuesday OP

Yeah he needs to be more weak and ineffectual like Merrick Garland. BannonsLiver Tuesday #1

Yup, par for the course LR3 Tuesday #3

Um, no Dave says Wednesday #50

You are absolutely right. sheshe2 Tuesday #2

Appeasement didn't work out too well for Europe in the 1930's newdeal2 Tuesday #4

I was disturbed when I heard him earlier today. brer cat Tuesday #5

He didn't "blow up" MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #6

So he didn't say... TheProle Tuesday #12

Newsom is right Skittles Tuesday #15

That wasn't my question to the previous poster, but noted. TheProle Tuesday #16

He was addressing the press. MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #94

Mark Carney appears to be the only leader who truly gets it peggysue2 19 hrs ago #68

Right on time. Kingofalldems Tuesday #33

What do you mean? MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #93

+ 1. If I were casting a remake of The Darkest Hour starring DUers I know who would be playing Lord Halifax. BannonsLiver Tuesday #13

Thanks for the video IcyPeas Tuesday #20

You're welcome, and I agree with you. MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #95

i'm a considered writer, not a kneejerk poster, and I always make the effort to be clear bigtree Tuesday #23

European parliaments have frank discussion, at cachukis Tuesday #28

Nothing personal MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #96

He did not creon Wednesday #53

If he is planning to Greg_In_SF Tuesday #7

Right....because the other party is Bettie 16 hrs ago #72

You're right Greg_In_SF 12 hrs ago #85

There is nothing remotely MAGAt about Gavin Newsom MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #97

I never said there was. Greg_In_SF 1 hr ago #100

Quite the ironic assertions Torchlight 18 min ago #101

Non-ugly American Starbeach Tuesday #8

not even wrong creon Tuesday #9

THANK YOU Skittles Tuesday #18

We are always in transition. Trump has spoiled the cachukis Tuesday #10

Agree IcyPeas Tuesday #22

DURec leftstreet Tuesday #11

Sorry he's absolutely right fujiyamasan Tuesday #14

I would say he is right. It's a fucking embarassment from all corners. Not excusing any US politician. boston bean Tuesday #17

Totally agree with you. nt Raine Tuesday #19

Newsom is right. And Europe consistently looks weak. Renew Deal Tuesday #21

Europe looks weak because they're dealing with internal issues haele Tuesday #30

What do you mean by TimeToGo Tuesday #35

Sorry, typing on my phone, will correct the stupid haele Tuesday #36

😎 We've all been there TimeToGo Tuesday #40

I couldn't agree more Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #24

He's right though. GoodRaisin Tuesday #25

Maybe. I think that they get it. themaguffin Tuesday #26

I'm on Newsom's side here. The entire world needs to be more vocal in their stances against Trump. LonePirate Tuesday #27

Hell no. TIME TO KICK SOME ASS. Irish_Dem Tuesday #29

"Nice guys finish last." Leo Durocher anciano Tuesday #31

..in bed. Qutzupalotl Wednesday #58

I voted for him for governor but I'd rather have someone else as President kimbutgar Tuesday #32

I support Newsom's remarks and attitude 100%.. Escape Tuesday #34

Wondering what European leaders think of America voters. Emile Tuesday #37

I find nothing wrong with what he said. nt Chalco Tuesday #38

Newsom is right about the complicity of the world's superrich. He's doing his part. I don't see any other Democratic ancianita Tuesday #39

how is this fellow the 'Democratic cause? ' bigtree Wednesday #46

Thanks for your usual thoughtful post. Much appreciated. I want to point out that he is frustrated, because ancianita Wednesday #48

Nothing worse than mealy mouthed apologists & critics of courage NotHardly Tuesday #41

Not a good look for Newsom. OGBuzz Tuesday #42

Hmmm GusBob Wednesday #43

Would giving specifics be viewed as treason? n/t BadgerKid Wednesday #44

Meh, when you lead an economy as large as California's, you get to say certain things JonAndKatePlusABird Wednesday #45

I doubt they cared at this point beyond bemusement bigtree Wednesday #47

Sorry, I'm sick and tired of meek capitulation. Arthur_Frain Wednesday #49

Well, The High Road markodochartaigh Wednesday #51

our votes for Obama kept the Democrats in control of the WH for EIGHT YEARS bigtree 21 hrs ago #62

Yes--I felt it was a bit over the top with the "knee pads" and "pathetic" being thrown around crimycarny Wednesday #52

Newsom was right on substance but still made a strategic error. tritsofme Wednesday #54

I like the fire Sugarcoated Wednesday #55

No one whose judgment included marrying Kimberley Guilfoyle DJ Synikus Makisimus Wednesday #56

I disagree with some points, agree with others, and just plain don't markodochartaigh Wednesday #57

I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders Jack Valentino Wednesday #59

so bigtree Yesterday #60

'...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the OP's response contained more heat than light' Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #89

it would be a different discussion if it centered on what I wrote in the op bigtree 10 hrs ago #92

Thank you, amigo.... My main fault on this forum has to be Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #98

I stand with Gavin Blues Heron 22 hrs ago #61

👍 👏 💯 🗣🔊 ColoringFool 21 hrs ago #63

why is he attacking the Europeans? bigtree 20 hrs ago #65

Did you read what he said? It's a wake up call. Blues Heron 20 hrs ago #66

did I read it? bigtree 20 hrs ago #67

Your overreacting , this is 2026- there is a new, less uptight electorate out there, the fuddy duddy era is over Blues Heron 17 hrs ago #70

you're bigtree 17 hrs ago #71

This thread sure went south on you pretty quickly. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #73

I think Newsome was absolutely right. That is the problem with almost all politicians and so called leaders, Autumn 21 hrs ago #64

We need more Gavin Newsoms and less tone police Renew Deal 19 hrs ago #69

Hmmm, disinvesting in the US FHRRK 16 hrs ago #74

no, what you wrote is specious bigtree 15 hrs ago #75

Let me give some general advice FHRRK 13 hrs ago #81

it's already assumed in this format that respondants are positing their own opinions bigtree 13 hrs ago #82

Again, IMO, people are looking for fighters FHRRK 12 hrs ago #83

do you know what specious means? superficially plausible, but actually wrong bigtree 12 hrs ago #84

For the love of all things holy FHRRK 12 hrs ago #86

let me put it more plainly bigtree 11 hrs ago #87

"I lied..." FHRRK 11 hrs ago #88

did you tell the truth? bigtree 11 hrs ago #90

Whew! FHRRK 10 hrs ago #91

Bullshit. Newsom was brilliant. He's positioned himself as the anti-trump. Euro leaders want that. Sibelius Fan 15 hrs ago #76

he also positioned himself as anti-European leader bigtree 15 hrs ago #79

at least he's trying - which is a lot more than so many other leaders samsingh 15 hrs ago #77

but that's not the issue I'm raising here bigtree 15 hrs ago #78

Newsom really fucked over the elderly and disabled CountAllVotes 15 hrs ago #80

Recommended. H2O Man 10 hrs ago #99