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waterwatcher123

(581 posts)
32. I do not believe they tamper with every race.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 11:42 AM
Jun 28

Tampering with every race would draw too much attention.

There were certainly plenty of people who voted for the orange felon. But the results are hard to buy (win every swing state below the margin to trigger an automatic recount, under votes, over votes that make no sense).

Everyone has a different take on this idea of stolen elections. However there have been plenty of examples of electronic tampering that have been well documented (Conyers Report from 2004, Clinton Curtis from 2000, Anonymous when they said they intervened to stop a man in the middle scheme). Computer scientists have also repeatedly demonstrated that it is easy to hack the election machines themselves.
The Muller Report also said Russians were inside the election machinery in many states (clearly for a reason).

It would be extremely hard to catch an electronic theft because it does not have to leave a trace or footprints, or produce unbelievable results. A stingray ray machine could be used to catch results in transit and files altered on the fly and it very hard to know if it was manipulated in any way.

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Of this I feel certain: if he didn't steal the election, it's not because he wouldn't. n/t Mister Ed Jun 28 #1
Exactly PatSeg Jun 28 #14
Considering he's already openly trying to, B.See Jun 28 #42
I totally agree 👍👍 TommieMommy Jun 28 #2
Doubting malaise agrees with you malaise Jun 28 #3
100% debsy Jun 28 #4
We should have a standing offer of $10,000,000 for anyone to come forward KS Toronado Jun 28 #5
Here you go Botany Jun 28 #8
Anyone who orchestrated an insurrection four years earlier because they lost an election, Emile Jun 28 #6
Pick your preferred AG Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #19
Elon Musk has admitted to stealing the election. Botany Jun 28 #7
Agree 100% karin_sj Jun 28 #9
Common sense would indicate the election was stolen Grim Chieftain Jun 28 #10
Exactly my thoughts Grim Chieftain. Diamond_Dog Jun 28 #11
It's entirely possible Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #21
Remember when this GOBBER said the quiet part out loud. Voter suppression will give Mitt Romney the election Maraya1969 Jun 28 #36
Yes, their ratfuckery and chicanery is visible for all to see Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #38
Actually, truly common sense would indicate exactly the opposite Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #20
It appears you are working overtime to say Trump "won" fair and square Grim Chieftain Jun 28 #23
Just standing up for reality Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #27
The idea of Individual One stealing the Presidency may have a certain emotional appeal, BUT Vogon_Glory Jun 28 #12
LOL popsdenver Jun 28 #16
Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity Vogon_Glory Jun 28 #34
Yes popsdenver Jun 29 #44
Some memorable Trump quotes ahead of the 2024 election. OGBuzz Jun 28 #13
"In four years, You don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good. You're not going to have to vote." Seinan Sensei Jun 28 #28
We all have suspicions ... I know I do ... FakeNoose Jun 28 #15
Are you suggesting that Democratic governors and secretaries of state withheld evidence of electoral fraud? Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #22
Sorry I didn't mean anything like that FakeNoose Jun 28 #29
Musk orthoclad Jun 28 #17
Your presumption is flawed logically Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #18
Well, not surprisingly, I disagree. Lol. Joinfortmill Jun 28 #24
Your gut feeling versus evidence EdmondDantes_ Jun 28 #40
I never mentioned gut feelings. Joinfortmill Jun 28 #41
The Republicans have tried to steal every election since 2000. waterwatcher123 Jun 28 #25
Then how come the candidate Musk invested millions in lost the WI Supreme Court race? Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #26
I do not believe they tamper with every race. waterwatcher123 Jun 28 #32
Oops - I meant a stingray machine. waterwatcher123 Jun 28 #33
So they can rig a nationwide election undetected by any state or precinct Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #35
Flawed logic? Maybe examine your own arguments. waterwatcher123 Jun 28 #37
Since 1960 dave99 Jun 28 #31
It probably killed too dave99 Jun 28 #30
If we find out it's true, and dlilafae Jun 28 #39
Let's not forget 2016, either dlk Jun 28 #43
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